Classic & Vintage - Paul de Vivie

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big chainring
01-05-13, 09:44 AM
Wow, what an amazing read. I googled Saint Etienne, the one time bicycle capitol of France and stumbled upon Paul de Vive. Also known as Velocio. I just kept on reading and reading.
Google him.


David Newton
01-05-13, 12:35 PM
Thank you for the tip! Very interesting man to say the least.
I do not understand his 7th rule: "do not ride for vainglory" or as restated by Clifford Graves "don't ride for the sake of riding".
If I followed this rule as I understand it, I would not ride at all unless I was going on an errand.

Chicago Al
01-05-13, 12:55 PM
Here is the 1965 article from 'Bicycling' magazine by Clifford Graves that (it would appear) introduced 'Velocio' to a new generation of cyclists, in America.

It's a wonderful article, and a great bit of history. Thanks, Big Chainring!

http://cycling.ahands.org/bicycling/velocio.html


ThermionicScott
01-05-13, 01:54 PM
Definitely one of those people I wish I could meet. Thanks for posting the article!

CMAW
01-05-13, 02:14 PM
Great find, I am going to enjoy reading some of that stuff. Lay off the meat, you C&V lunch lovers!


Thank you for the tip! Very interesting man to say the least.
I do not understand his 7th rule: "do not ride for vainglory" or as restated by Clifford Graves "don't ride for the sake of riding".
If I followed this rule as I understand it, I would not ride at all unless I was going on an errand.


In french it says Ne jamais pédaler par amour-propre: don't ride out of self-love, vanity, or just to show off
(only rule I break from time to time). C. Graves' translation is a bit off, I suppose he meant, not for the sake of riding, but to improve oneself.

rootboy
01-05-13, 02:41 PM
"don't ride out of self-love, vanity, or just to show off"

I think that says it very succinctly.

SlowRoller
01-05-13, 05:12 PM
I think that one is often misunderstood. As I interpret it, it means: don't ride because you feel you have to ride--ride because you want to ride.


Thank you for the tip! Very interesting man to say the least.
I do not understand his 7th rule: "do not ride for vainglory" or as restated by Clifford Graves "don't ride for the sake of riding".
If I followed this rule as I understand it, I would not ride at all unless I was going on an errand.

ftwelder
01-05-13, 06:10 PM
I like what I have read about the man in various books regarding gearing. I really wish I understood more French.

David Newton
01-05-13, 06:24 PM
Thanks! I knew something wasn't getting interpreted fully.