Classic & Vintage - fishished the bike,but dont like it!

little to small and cramped. gonna throw it up for sale or trade...
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m615/sloar1070/DSC01114.jpghttp://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m615/sloar1070/DSC01117.jpg

sad it didn't work out. It's a wonder just to look at, though, you sure know how to paint them!

Thanks, I'm really happy how it turned out, just to small.

Too bad it's too small but you shan't have any problem moving that one. Nice looking job, Sloar.

It really looks great, too bad it doesn't fit. You need to find a ridding buddy it will fit.

Nice job! …and it looks like it's just the perfect size for me! Give me a holler if you have a problem finding a buyer!
- Wil

Fantastic build. Shame that it doesn't fit, and it looks like you even used handlebars with a lot of reach. (VO Randos?)

Maybe you should edit your thread title to:
"Finished the bike but it does not fit!"
.....As I don't see anything not to like on that nice build you did......

Chombi

There's a few more issues other than size, I'm not to crazy about the relaxed geomatry, I like steeper race bike frames, this one seems to slow.

few more pics, i think the bad thing is i meant to do a cheap build on this and i went overboard.http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m615/sloar1070/DSC01118.jpghttp://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m615/sloar1070/DSC01120.jpghttp://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m615/sloar1070/DSC01121.jpg

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Nice build and really nice paint job!

I'll concur that it is too bad it doesn't fit you or your geometry expectations.

Maybe you should edit your thread title to:
"Finished the bike but it does not fit!"
.....As I don't see anything not to like on that nice build you did......

Chombi

I agree but I have never been able to figure out how to edit a title. I think only Mods can do that.

Nice build and really nice paint job!

I'll concur that it is too bad it doesn't fit you or your geometry expectations.

And that frame has gobs of seat tube set back.

I see the problem. You didn't put skinwall tires on it.

If it doesn't fit it doesn't fit, but I'd push that saddle forward a bit anyhow.

This is pretty close to me and looks to be my size! Too bad I am out of cash. Good job on the build though sloar!

it happens.....i usually re-format & use some parts on other bikes & sell what I won't use. Reminds me why I'm always reluctant to paint *anything*...it's the one piece of work or investment you can't take off & use on another project!

Was the bar tape hard to apply?

paint def looks sharp. how'd you do it?

the wrap wasnt so hard, just took awhile.

What kind of FD is on this bike?
While we're at it, what is the RD?

I always measure the angles, particularly the seat tube angle, before doing a high-spec build or rebuild. Alternately, I could just judge by riding it, but a "slack" seat tube angle pulls about .9cm of effective length out of the top tube for each degree it moves back.

My recent '72 Steyr Clubman was a generous 61cm C-T and with 60.5cm toptube, but a 70-degree seat tube angle makes the reach to the bars feel more like a racier 56cm bike.
Also, the 70.5-degree head tube will limit the length of stem I can likely use before the dreaded steering flop becomes an issue.
As it is, I've settled on a 110mm neck which immediately required a slightly wider handlebar to control steering flop during hard climbing or sprinting off of the saddle.

You just don't know, especially with the older and cheaper frames. My early-'60's Legnano has almost the same angles, which will likely make that 60cm bike feel more like a 55cm out on the road.
This inexpensive Clubman and an inexpensive, early-'70's Japanese Concord DeLuxe I have are in this same boat, angle-wise.
The same is true of the Varsity/Continental frames, where a proper sizing usually should have the rider on the very tallest frame they can straddle.

This would seem to explain why racer's bikes in the old days showed so little seatpost, since they had to have larger frames to match the slacker angles.

Front and rear derailleurs are campagnolo Valentino

That bike looks like a not so distant cousin to my cardinelli, same seat stays, same deraileurs.
Is the head tube and front lugs the same part?
Mine is tubo di gazzo tubing,
That chrome skirt on the fork crown even rings a bell.

Your bike looks far better then mine.

What brakes are on that?

The Maino looks great. It reminds me of a 1970's Atala, so maybe it is?

"What brakes are on that?"

Those look like Universal Super 68's, top-level calipers btw.

But what kind of frame is it? Was it originally badged "Maino"?

Ok, a little Googling and Maino turns out to be built by Atala.
The Milanese brands (including Atala) are said to be similar in build style, even though Atala was bought and moved to Padova (Padua) in 1938.

Now I'm curious which was the first notable Italian race bike to be built with the modern, upright angles? The French built some incredibly steep-angled road bikes way back in the early '50's.

Yes, it was badged a maino, I couldn't find very many online so the paint job is my own rendition