Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - toe clips and traffic

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moxfyre
02-09-05, 09:32 AM
I have been commuting for about 1 week on my new fixie, and almost everything about it is great. My only problem is that I have a lot of trouble getting my feet into the toe clips in traffic. The first foot is easy, but then once I start moving I have to go very slowly and watch my other foot as I fumble around and try to get it in the clip. Of course if it takes any time at all the cars behind start honking!! This was always very easy for me on my geared bike.
Anybody have a tip for me? Yes I know I should just be doing trackstands at stoplights, but I'm not good enough at them yet :)
nocoins
02-09-05, 09:57 AM
I have been commuting for about 1 week on my new fixie, and almost everything about it is great. My only problem is that I have a lot of trouble getting my feet into the toe clips in traffic. The first foot is easy, but then once I start moving I have to go very slowly and watch my other foot as I fumble around and try to get it in the clip. Of course if it takes any time at all the cars behind start honking!! This was always very easy for me on my geared bike.
Anybody have a tip for me? Yes I know I should just be doing trackstands at stoplights, but I'm not good enough at them yet :)
it takes practice.... you will get it. When I first started with clips i rode on the flat part of the pedals until the traffic was clear then I could slow down and get my foot in.... now I can get it in fine on the first rotation. It will get easier as you ride.
pitboss
02-09-05, 10:04 AM
DO NOT look at your foot when you try to get it in the pedal. Rely on motion and feel to "kick-in" - otherwise one day you might be looking down to kick in and run into a traffic issue.
It helps too if the pedals have the little "tooth" sticking out off the back that assists in getting kicked in.
South Fulcrum
02-09-05, 10:11 AM
You stop at lights? :D
It does take time to get the hang of it on a fixie. I got really good, but then I got me some MKS GR-9s (http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/pedals.html#platform), and it takes little to no effort.
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/images/mks-gr9-platform.jpeg
mrwhite
02-09-05, 10:15 AM
Pedal technology & Italian shoes.
Rode cages for one morning to see what all the fuss is about.
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moxfyre
02-09-05, 10:21 AM
Cool, thanks for all the tips, I do have the little tooth in back, these are some old Campy-knockoff pedals. I will now suck it up and keep practicing :D
loosen the straps and bend up your cage a bit until you get used to kicking in, then you can tighten your straps back down.
bostontrevor
02-09-05, 11:18 AM
And work on that track stand. It can take me a little bit of time to get fully strapped in if I have to do a rolling start. I generally do this at the side of the road square in the door zone so that someone has the opportunity to off me while I'm reaching down to my feet.
The rest of the time it's just standing out the light.
Fugazi Dave
02-09-05, 11:26 AM
*cough* clipless *cough* :)
jerrryhazard
02-09-05, 11:26 AM
I'm in the same situation. I try my best not to take my feet out though, and pedal as slow as possible - sometimes I can trackstand for the light, sometimes I have put a foot down. Getting better though.
It'll just take some time.
Rode the freewheel bike yesterday for the first time in 6 days. That was strange, my feet wanted to keep going. Coasting sucks...
moxfyre
02-09-05, 11:28 AM
I'm in the same situation. I try my best not to take my feet out though, and pedal as slow as possible - sometimes I can trackstand for the light, sometimes I have put a foot down. Getting better though.
It'll just take some time.
Rode the freewheel bike yesterday for the first time in 6 days. That was strange, my feet wanted to keep going. Coasting sucks...
I have actually not used a freewheel bike since I first road my fixie. Wondering if I should sell my old commuter...
fixedfiend
02-09-05, 12:15 PM
']DO NOT look at your foot when you try to get it in the pedal. .
This is the number one rule in trying to get the other foot into clips. It'll take you forever if you peek.
Use the force.
Moonshot
02-09-05, 12:23 PM
I have nylon toe clips similar to these and I cut about half of the top off. I run without straps of course. It makes entry much easier.
http://www.mtbstore.com/product_images04/Wellgo-PedalParts-PP00123.jpg
*cough* clipless *cough* :)
Heh; some of us are looked upon as weird for riding a bicycle to work as-is, without adding fancy shoes into the mix. I like being able to wear normal shoes to work/the bar/etc, although now that it's sloppy out I do end up keeping a less-rancid pair of shoes at work so I can change into them when I get there. Most of the time, though, I do love the clips & straps.
jnbacon
02-09-05, 01:40 PM
I run the MKS pedals South Fulcrum mentioned on my commuter, but I busted the tooth off one of them (no idea where or how, one morning it was just gone). It's a pain when it's wet, but the trick I use in traffic is to mash down with the ball of my foot on the first rotation, then shift my foot on the next rotation so that my toe is at the front of the pedal, and finally do the flip, pressuring with the toes, on the third rotation. The other pedal is a breeze.
TimArchy
02-09-05, 02:19 PM
I've got the MKS pedals also and I could tell the diference between them and my old shimano 600s immeadietly. They're way easier to get into, they're more comfortable, and they hold pretty tight even with the straps loose. Several of my friends ride with one strap tight, usually non-dominant foot, and one loose to put a foot down at lights. I ride with both fairly loose and haven't had trouble stopping or skidding or anything.
and to repeat whats been said already, don't look down. It may be hard for a day or two, but it will get really easy really quick.
tim
bostontrevor
02-09-05, 02:39 PM
By the way, Rivendell sells the GR-9s for less than than Harris, even if you're not a Riv member.
redfooj
02-09-05, 03:29 PM
bend the cages out... also, it depends a lot on the shoes that you're wearing (or, specifically: the pattern on the sole)
moxfyre
02-09-05, 03:31 PM
bend the cages out... also, it depends a lot on the shoes that you're wearing (or, specifically: the pattern on the sole)
Really? Any suggestions for shoe type? I ride in a pair of old running shoes with fairly worn soles.
stinkyonions
02-09-05, 05:15 PM
i have a pair of 4ce's, skating shoes, that totally kick ass for riding in cages. the only bad thing is the company went under. :(
i just picked up two new pairs on ebay though for $75 shipped. not bad considering they probably went for that price for one pair when they were in business. i want to do a writeup on them in comparison to the other shoes i have ridden with when i get a chance this weekend.
charliebee
02-09-05, 06:07 PM
yeah i hate when im riding on roads where the speed limit is 45 and im only able to get one of my feet in. but you definately will get better with time, for me now its usually never an issue getting my feet in and starting up really fast.
i think i got my gr-9's clips and straps for less then haris sells just the platforms from bens bikes
Kennetht638
02-09-05, 08:08 PM
I rode platforms with clips and straps for like a week but didn't like them because they didn't feel as solid as clipless. However, I found that in my New Balance running shoes, I had a whole lot of trouble getting my feet into the pedals, but with my flatter-soled and narrower Kenneth Cole Reaction shoes, I could get into my pedals without even looking down. Also, the flip-up tab on my right pedal has broken off, and I still had absolutely no trouble just pulling back on the top of the pedal with my foot.
jerrryhazard
02-09-05, 09:14 PM
Really? Any suggestions for shoe type? I ride in a pair of old running shoes with fairly worn soles.
I find that shelltoes work very well...
redfooj
02-09-05, 11:54 PM
Really? Any suggestions for shoe type? I ride in a pair of old running shoes with fairly worn soles.
all my flatter adidas / puma / tennis styled shoes dont work so well.. basketball shoes seem to slide right on in
FixednotBroken
02-10-05, 06:56 AM
Really? Any suggestions for shoe type? I ride in a pair of old running shoes with fairly worn soles.
get yourself some vans - the kind without shoelaces. my absolute favorite shoes for cages.
Slartibartfast
02-10-05, 07:46 AM
get yourself some vans - the kind without shoelaces. my absolute favorite shoes for cages.
royal elastics make these too and i like them quite a lot. warning: what they call kaki, I call green.
One thing to watch out for is what kind of tread is on the sole at the toe. in an attempt to avoid chucks (now made by nike) i got some pro keds. problem is, there are these tiny treads running horizontally at the toe which always catch the lip at the opening of my pedal. imagine being solidly clipped in but in a pedal that is only about an inch deep. kinda sucks. someone suggested i fill in the tread with wood glue but i haven't gotten around to it yet.
*cough* clipless *cough* :)
*cough* Platforms *cough*
nolageek
02-10-05, 08:30 AM
My favorite pair of shoes to ride in my clips are my black Docs (not the boots, the shoes.) The tread is chunky, but the way it arcs around the toe the first horizontal tread is right where the pedal lip is... really grabs in good. I'm just a little afraid the plastic clip will damage the leather. :/
My chucks are terrible though... since there's no sole/tread whatsoever I have to tighten the strap so much that it because a ***** to get in.
I second the "practice" sentiment... I had problems the first week I rode with clips, but it's definately easier now. Becoming second nature now.
arcellus
02-10-05, 12:02 PM
*cough* clipless *cough* :)
second
when i first started riding with clips i would keep my right (dominate) foot out of the cage and put my left foot in the clip. it was much easier for me because i have much better with my right foot since i am right handed/footed. of course just reverse the method if you are a lefty.
p.s. sambas are the best riding shoes in my opinion.
adamkell
02-10-05, 01:02 PM
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p.s. sambas are the best riding shoes in my opinion.
flimsy soles though, yea?
When it's nice out and I happen to be using clips, I bought a pair of these Palladiums. The sole is super stiff and they are low profile.
flimsy soles though, yea?
yeahhhh they are a bit flimsy but there is just something about them that lets me look past that..of course this is all personal preference. haha it sounds like i have romantic feelings for this shoe.
when i first started riding with clips i would keep my right (dominate) foot out of the cage and put my left foot in the clip. it was much easier for me because i have much better with my right foot since i am right handed/footed. of course just reverse the method if you are a lefty.
DITTO.
& i usually ride wearing vans (slip-ons or laces, don't matter to me) & chucks. i've also ridden in duck boots, which, surprisingly, worked rahter harmoniously w/ the clips & pedals. who knew.
jitensha!
02-10-05, 02:31 PM
When it's nice out and I happen to be using clips, I bought a pair of these Palladiums. The sole is super stiff and they are low profile.
who makes those?
A company named Palladium.
http://www.solestruck.com/palladium-hypnotic-(black).html
Do they come as men's shoes as well?
Uhh, if they aren't mens then I love to cross dress I guess.
Looks like I'm a cross dresser.
mawkzie
02-10-05, 05:55 PM
get yourself some vans - the kind without shoelaces. my absolute favorite shoes for cages.
somehow yesterday i nearly lost a slipon in the middle of a busy intersection. it was ridiculous. i was making a left turn and had to dangle the left shoe on the end of my toe while pedaling with the right foot. rush hour traffic. i had visions of my shoe getting demolished, and me trying to run out into the road to save it. theyre the pink skull ones, too.
okay, ill practice track stands now.
Time and practice! It is a skill not just a fly by night!
S/F,
CEYA!
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