Best Training Tyres

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Phatman

michelin carbon.

alraicercsu

Michellen carbons, and conti supposedly has a special training tire

terrymorse

Hi,

I am looking to replace my Continental GP 3000 (700x23) tyres. I am looking for a durable fast training tyre that will last 2500 - 3000 miles. Any suggestions? I am considering the Vredestein Fortezza but I have read some mixed reviews on wear and reliability.

Thanks for your thoughts!

I picked up several Fortezza Comps from the Performance web site for $20. They seem to be wearing just fine, and the price is hard to beat. At 270 gm, they're a bit heavier than a race tire, but I won't be racing on them. I was using Avocet Fasgrip 25mm tires for every day, but the Fortezzas are cheaper.

531Aussie

SipperPhoto

I have some Specialized Pro Mondos with about 1500 miles on them so far.. they've been great, and no flats yet!

JEff

pilotpat

I still think one of the best values in a fast TRAINING tire are the Performance Forte Kevlars. Very puncture-resistant, light, durable (My best so far is about 3k on the rear, a bit more on the front), and just about $20 at Performance. Only problem is that they only come in Yellow, if you're a style-conscious person. For a few more bucks, you can get their next step up in black.

For ultimate durability, the Specialized Armadillos we have on our Santana tandem are heavy but very durable and near thorn-proof.

jedi_rider

Stay with Conti and take a look at the Ultra Gatorskins.

With that said, I've used the Michelin Carbons, Specialized Pro Mondos, and the Performance Forte Kevlars...can't argue with you if you choose any of these, too.

Phatman

I still think one of the best values in a fast TRAINING tire are the Performance Forte Kevlars. Very puncture-resistant, light, durable (My best so far is about 3k on the rear, a bit more on the front), and just about $20 at Performance. Only problem is that they only come in Yellow, if you're a style-conscious person. For a few more bucks, you can get their next step up in black.

A friend that i ride with has had nothing but problems with is Forte Kevlars. He gets quite a few flats...and they're not wearing particularly well, either, theres a good flat spot after only about 1000 miles.

Torelli4

Continental Ultra Gator Skins - 2 years & no flats and they ride very smooth

pilotpat

A friend that i ride with has had nothing but problems with is Forte Kevlars. He gets quite a few flats...and they're not wearing particularly well, either, theres a good flat spot after only about 1000 miles.

Wow. I've ridden these since early 2001 without any of those problems. Did have a bad blowout with tread separation on one on a tour through the SCal desert (I think we were around Baker?), but the tire had been on my rear wheel for 2500+ miles, it was near 100 degrees, and I hit a big piece of road debris. Fortunately, I was rolling into a SAG stop about 100yds ahead, so I was able to put a new one on (also a Performance Forte K).

Definitely never had problems with flat spots.

gcasillo

You've been using the tire you want: Continental Grand Prix. Tough to beat.

Bruco

Continental Ultra Gator Skins - 2 years & no flats and they ride very smooth

:rolleyes: Mileage?

You've been using the tire you want: Continental Grand Prix. Tough to beat.

They get my vote, too.

531Aussie

I was speaking to a guy today who weighs 143lbs (65kg), and he says he's got 10,500 miles out of his Michelins!!! :eek: I'd say it's true because I've seen him a couple of times a week on the group rides for the last few years, and I'm sure he hasn't changed them.

I dunno what model they are, but the tread is all yellow, they're 2 or 3 years old, and they came on his black and yellow 2003 Team ONCE carbon Giant, with Ksyriums

khackney

Anyone tried the Kenda Kaliente / Iron Cloaks? They sound promising.

molten

The best training tyres are obviously the ones that provide the best value for money and the best puncture protection.

I use the "plain" Conti GPs (wire beaded), mainly because they're cheap and easy to get, but they're nothing special when it comes to wear.

I've heard some amazing 'wear' stories about the Michelin Carbon, and I've also heard some amazing "puncture-proof" stories about the Vredesteins and the Specialized Armadillos.
See what You started up with the talking about the Conti Gp (not the 3000)??? The LBS's; and any bikers that favor Conti around here --- only speak about the 3000. when I began road bikes, I only used the non-GP (but the foldable). Stayed with it for 1000's of miles; tried the 3000 --- didn't like it. so the personal bike shop got Me to try Michelin. I bout a buch of Hi-lites at PBS f(clearance) for $20.00; now I'm using the Pro-Race1.

alanbikehouston

Cycling Plus picked the Conti Gatorskins. I guess some folks would rather ride than fix flats.

531Aussie

Yeah, I had some 3000s once, and they weren't anything special, but they were 20mm.

You happy with the Michelins?

Bruco

Cycling Plus picked the Conti Gatorskins.

Maybe they were wrong: I had three punctures on my last (wet) ride. :) Of course, this is highly anecdotal and by no means degrades the Gatorskins. But I can't avoid getting doubts as to their 'Flat Protection System' or claimed puncture-resistance over, for example, my beloved Grand Prix (non-foldable, non-3000)... :(

alanbikehouston

Maybe they were wrong: I had three punctures on my last (wet) ride. :) Of course, this is highly anecdotal and by no means degrades the Gatorskins. But I can't avoid getting doubts as to their 'Flat Protection System' or claimed puncture-resistance over, for example, my beloved Grand Prix (non-foldable, non-3000)... :(

Did you find the actual cause of the punctures? I had several flats in a week on one wheel. Careful inspection of the tire showed that no glass or metal had fully penetrated through the tire. The LBS smoothed out some spoke ends, and replaced the rim strip. Replaced the generic tubes with Continental tubes. No more flats - have not had a flat in months (find some wood, find some wood...start knocking...)

Bruco

Did you find the actual cause of the punctures?

Yup, those tiny, nasty little stones that eat their way into your tyre (especially if it's wet). For some reason, they're always white.

Rim strip etc. are okay.

26mi235

I use Continental 300g training tires; sewups still have some advantages, and they seem to last a long time and give a smooth ride. [Note: I do NOT want to start a Clinchers/sewup war.] Part of the reason for using them is that I got a great deal from Robbie Ventura when he was switching equipment.

I have found about a 2-to-1 difference in miles front to rear and sometimes the ratio is even higher. I am only 137lbs, so that helps, and 20 years past my racing years means that I do not stress the tires that much anymore.

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