Mountain Biking - HT frame designs.
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02-12-05, 02:13 PM
I have a 1993 Cannondale KillerV frame. I was wanting to get back into mountain biking after being away for about 10 years. Most of the parts I am going to upgrade because of them being pretty outdated as to how I want to ride, but frame wise will the Cannondale frame still do it for me? Or are parts even made for that size tubing?
02-13-05, 10:02 AM
Nobody can help me? I have read up a bit on how many people still use this frame, and WOW!! I couldn't believe this... Should I use this, or buy a new bike?
02-13-05, 10:07 AM
you can still use it. I dont know the specs of it, but if it takes a 1 1/8" steerer thats good, since most mtb forks are that. Just measure your seat tube for the front derailleur, check to see what your BB shell is too.
02-13-05, 11:04 AM
You know, I swear it was 1 1/4 but I will have to find a web site that has the specs on it..
02-13-05, 11:23 AM
why not measure yourself?
02-13-05, 01:49 PM
yah heh.. Are there many 1 1/4 parts being made?
I am at work, so I was kinda not near the bike, but I will later.
02-13-05, 03:02 PM
1 1/4 is kind of rare. If its that your options for forks are so limited that you might as well get a new frame. If your on a budjet i recommend
Its nothing fancy, i own that frame except a bigger version and i love it. I was skeptical but surprisingly its of very good quality. My only complaint is that you must use the cane creek zero stack, but still with the money saved you can afford it. the same seller offers it for 35 i think. It has disc brake tabs, rack support, and 2 water bottle cage mounts.
02-13-05, 03:19 PM
I'd be a little concerned about a very thin walled aluminum frame from the early 90s. The fatigue life on older aluminum frames wasn't what it is today. Also, in 93 aluminum was a still an infant as a frame material. Material and alloy technology has come a long way in 12 years. Instead of upgrading all the parts I would personally just get a new bike. It probably wouldn't cost much more than upgrading all the parts. If a whole new bike is out of your budget now just ride the old C'dale as is for a while, save up a little more, and buy a new bike. Maybe turn the old C'dale into a singlespeed. It'd be a fresh incarnation of an old friend.
02-13-05, 03:38 PM
I wouldn't be worried about fatigue unless you've ridden the crap out of it, which I'll assume you haven't. Finding replacement parts shouldn't be too difficult either, even if you do have a 1 1/4 headset ( heaps of stuff on ebay in that size )
I can't remember the Killer V....is it the one with the three tubes in the front 'triangle' to improve standover height? A lot has happened in 12 years, but I'm sure you could get some enjoyment out of that old bike. If not, then what the heck? Get a new one.
02-13-05, 04:16 PM
yah I raced, and rode the bike hard (actually downhill raced it for two of the four I rode it, and XC the other two) and it treated me REAL well. It started as a total rigid bike, and then I put some ROCKSHOX on it, and upgraded som eof the parts. But I am more of a lightweight rider so I doubt I reallty messed anything up.
I have ridden many bikes and nothing has compared to the ride quality of the KillerV that's why I wanted to salvage the frame. It stood up to my jumping it, EXCELLENT climbing bike, great turning capability, easy to control in single track, and overall a great quality ride. I even won a few local downhill races back in the day.. Was the only person that won using a hard tail :D
02-16-05, 09:51 PM
Just measured it.. 1 1/4... HRMM.. I took just about everything off it.. I LOVE my pedals though.. Old shimano 937 or something like that.. I wasn't able to salvage much though except the frame, so I might just get a new bike :(
02-17-05, 10:52 AM
Dude, the bike is 12 years old, get a new one! The technology now is so much better.Anyways, the amount you're going to spend upgrading you might as well get one.
02-17-05, 11:16 AM
Ride this one while you save, then just get a newer bike. The newer bikes and suspension forks would most likely toss the geometry on your current bike. Normally a new bike is as cheap as an upgraded one.
02-17-05, 04:53 PM
Well the thing is, that they designed my frame up until 2002, and Marin now makes it, so the frame is still supposedly one of the best designed ones out there. I have never ridden a bike with the sturdiness and climbing ability of that bike (and I have ridden a lot recently) so that is why I was wanting to keep the frame..
Although it is 12 years old, the frame is still pretty current design wise. But I am going to get a new bike.. Maybe try to offload that old one :) thx guys!
02-18-05, 02:35 AM
I LOVED the Killer V frame design. I'd keep it and use it till you break it.
Cannondale has an 1-1/4" headtube for their older frames. Unless you've got a Headshock (which you DON't) you'll have problems getting a new fork for it. I recommend getting a 1-1/4" to 1-1/8" headset reducer. I know Chris King makes one, but it's very pricey. I think Cane Creek also makes one.
BTW, if you look at the new Prophet, it's the old Killer V frame design, just with modern geometries.
Also, (and I can't believe I'm saying this) if you break it, and you're the original owner, Cannondale offers a "LIFETIME" warranty on their frames.
Build it up, ride it, if you break it, they'll probably send you a new F600 frame. Hey, it wouldn't be a Killer V, but it'd be a new frame.
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