Classic & Vintage - help with old frame.
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02-23-05, 10:25 PM
Hi i just recently accquired a benotto frame with some campy neuvo record parts on in it. I have searched and searched but have yet to find out how to deterimne the year that the bike was made. Thanks.
02-23-05, 10:48 PM
We need some pictures (!), but most Nuovo rear derailleurs have a patent date above the upper pivot bolt... What's it say? Usually the frame will be a year or so later than that date (not always, but you'll have an idea). Also, the Record cranks will have a date code on the back of the arms next to STRADA or PISTA (single digit on all but square) in either a diamond, circle, or square (diamond for '73-'79, circle from '80-'84, square for '85-'87.... What is it?
02-24-05, 12:58 AM
the bolt on thr derailuler says 82' there is no date code on the cranks, i think it is because they are the special ones that they made for benotto. they have benotto badges on them. I would just like to know is this frame italian or mexican.
02-24-05, 12:04 PM
I'd like to see pictures, as I have one from about that same period, with no paint...bare steel, stripped by previous owner. Price was right, and the frame nicely built. I've been wondering the same of my frame; Mexican or Italian Benotto - but it's well built, and doesn't matter. I did also get "Benotto" alloy cranks with mine, and I think they're Ambrosio, Gipiemme, Ofmega,... not sure.
pic of an 80's mexican benotto
02-24-05, 08:03 PM
I have a BENOTTO 850 with Columbus Zeta frame. Is this frame steel? I think it's a 1983 vintage or somewhere around there. Full Campy SR - everything.
Does anyone know if that frame is steel or ?????
02-25-05, 12:29 AM
my decals are different than that. just an oval with benotto in it.
If the hubs are Campagnolo and you remove the locknut, there will be a date code on the back, that you can use to corroborate the date on the derailleurs.
Offhand, it sounds like it could be a 1983 model 1500. The crankset was actually made by Gipiemme, which would explain the lack of a date code. What is the tubing used on the frame. Columbus or Ishiwata? What brand are brakes, pedals and hubs?
02-26-05, 12:53 AM
hubs campy record, brakes universal, pedals gipiemme
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