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Helmet-Head
03-08-05, 05:40 PM
Here's the link to the LAB (League of American Bicyclists) bike safety quiz...
http://www.bikeleague.org/educenter/safetyQuiz/
How'd you do?
closetbiker
03-08-05, 06:17 PM
I had only 1 mistake and I can cite the source that is specialized in the area of question and has more up to date information than the source used for the answer and my source is the answer I used but was marked as incorrect. (I want a re-count)
Treespeed
03-08-05, 06:39 PM
League of American Bicyclists - Education
Bicycle Safety Quiz
Your Total Score: 100.0%
I kept waiting for the question, "Bike lanes are:"
A. To be used at all times even when covered with glass and nails.
B. A communist conspiracy.
Here's the link to the LAB (League of American Bicyclists) bike safety quiz...
http://www.bikeleague.org/educenter/safetyQuiz/
How'd you do?
Gee, 100%... I logged on as "test man"
So what...
League of American Bicyclists - Education
Bicycle Safety Quiz
Your Total Score: 100.0%
I kept waiting for the question, "Bike lanes are:"
A. To be used at all times even when covered with glass and nails.
B. A communist conspiracy.
Like floride, eh?
Litespeed
03-08-05, 06:48 PM
I got 100%, guess that bicycle course paid off. (Thanks Kerry)
Yay, we're all safe cyclists :D
skydive69
03-08-05, 06:50 PM
I had only 1 mistake and I can cite the source that is specialized in the area of question and has more up to date information than the source used for the answer and my source is the answer I used but was marked as incorrect. (I want a re-count)
Same here. What a dumbass, patronizing quiz. Only a moron would not score all but the answer they incorrectly give.
closetbiker
03-08-05, 07:42 PM
Same here. What a dumbass, patronizing quiz. Only a moron would not score all but the answer they incorrectly give.
from the bicycle helmet safety institue... when to replace a helmet
Bell now recommends every three years, which seems to us too short. They base it partially on updating your helmet technology, but they have not been improving their helmets that much over three year periods, and we consider some of their more recent helmets to be a step backwards, so we would take that with a grain of salt...In sum, we don't find the case for replacing a helmet that meets the ASTM or Snell standards that compelling if the helmet is still in good shape and fits you well.
I'll bet the CPSC gets it's recomondation for replacement of helmets from helmet manafactuers
DieselDan
03-08-05, 07:58 PM
from the bicycle helmet safety institue... when to replace a helmet
Bell now recommends every three years, which seems to us too short. They base it partially on updating your helmet technology, but they have not been improving their helmets that much over three year periods, and we consider some of their more recent helmets to be a step backwards, so we would take that with a grain of salt...In sum, we don't find the case for replacing a helmet that meets the ASTM or Snell standards that compelling if the helmet is still in good shape and fits you well.
I'll bet the CPSC gets it's recomondation for replacement of helmets from helmet manafactuers
The CPSC is a US gubbernet agency, and it's juristiction is to products sold in the US only, not Canada or Europe.
closetbiker
03-08-05, 08:13 PM
The CPSC is a US gubbernet agency, and it's juristiction is to products sold in the US only, not Canada or Europe.
Don't they use EPS for car bumpers too? Do they recommend car bumpers be replaced every 3 to 5 years?
more from bhsi...
Snell knows a lot about helmets and their views on this subject should not be dismissed lightly, even though we disagree with them...Deterioration depends on usage, care, and abuse...The standards do not permit manufacturers to make a helmet that degrades from sweat...Manufacturers put UV inhibitors in the plastic for their shells that control UV degradation. If your helmet is fading, maybe the UV inhibitors are failing... EPS is a long-lived material little affected by normal environmental factors
I nailed it! Now, if only I could do this in chemistry...
thechrisproject
03-08-05, 09:37 PM
I didn't get any right.
For such a mindless 'quiz', the LAB sure does want a lot of personal information. There's really no reason to ask for name, address, phone number and email, just for access.
I think I'll go ride the wrong way down a sidewalk in protest.
For such a mindless 'quiz', the LAB sure does want a lot of personal information. There's really no reason to ask for name, address, phone number and email, just for access.
I think I'll go ride the wrong way down a sidewalk in protest.
so true
I put an 'a' in every required field they ask me.
The 'quiz' was obvioulsy just a thinly veiled attempt to get you in the LAB database for solicitations. It gives me the impression that the LAB is more about funding themselves than promoting safe cycling. This may be a faulty impression, but it's the one I now have.
For such a mindless 'quiz', the LAB sure does want a lot of personal information. There's really no reason to ask for name, address, phone number and email, just for access.
I think I'll go ride the wrong way down a sidewalk in protest.
Oh and then the follow it up with a sales pitch... for their new safe biking book... sheesh!
Aced it. Gave a bunch of garbage info for the signup. They'll get directory assistance for area code 301 if they try to call me. (Not my real area code)
pyze-guy
03-09-05, 05:55 AM
I gave my address and phone number no problem, but then again I'm living in India for the 2 years.
reich17
03-09-05, 06:26 AM
I responded to the quiz on behalf of Peter Steele, lead singer of Type O Negative. He aced it.
For such a mindless 'quiz', the LAB sure does want a lot of personal information. There's really no reason to ask for name, address, phone number and email, just for access.
I think I'll go ride the wrong way down a sidewalk in protest.
And no privacy statement on that page either!
thechrisproject
03-09-05, 07:42 AM
From a web developer standpoint, that registration page is a joke. There's no verification of any info... usually you at least check to make sure that an email address has an "@" in it, or that a phone number isn't made up of all letters.
dduh! I feel like I've been had! I like quizzes though. There is a a good one I should dig up which has more intereesting/practical q and a. I partially dummified the 'registration' info.
Hmmm. I didn't like that question 14.
So, if traffic is stopped at a light, I can't pass cars on the right and ride to the front unless there's a bike lane?
Guess I'm a dummy, I missed that one. Checked CA vehicle code in the bike sections and couldn't find this addressed.
But since I'm a dummy, I made sure to fill in dummy information on the reg page, as all you intellegent cyclists already knew. I'm surprised they didn't ask for my Credit Card# and Social!
Dahon.Steve
03-09-05, 12:25 PM
For such a mindless 'quiz', the LAB sure does want a lot of personal information. There's really no reason to ask for name, address, phone number and email, just for access.
I think I'll go ride the wrong way down a sidewalk in protest.
Agreed.
I put fake information because the last thing I need is more junk mail and spam.
Dahon.Steve
03-09-05, 12:37 PM
>>>13. To safely change lanes in traffic, bicyclists must:
Be able to ride with one hand to signal a turn <<<<<
I've been saying this for the longest that a person using a Third Eye mirror is less likely to do this. The answer to change lanes is to use hand signals not look in the mirror and turn.
>>>>>11. In order to commute to work year-round by bicycle:
You will probably need a fleet of bicycles, in case one breaks down
You will probably need a front white light and rear red light or reflector
I answered this question correctly but do not agree with it at all. I think their recomendation for rear lighting is dangerous for the cyclist who rides at night and it needs to be revised This is the same position Forrester has in "Effective Cycling" and it is outdated.
Having only a rear reflector at night is asking for trouble. In fact, having a single red light in todays high speed roadways is insufficient. You need two or more high quality blinkies with seven or more leds in each one. Furthermore, one needs to be high and perferably attached to the back of the helmet.
Dahon.Steve
03-09-05, 12:41 PM
>>>>>14. Under what circumstances are bicyclists permitted to pass on the right?
When a dedicated lane exists in which to do so <<<<
This is interesting. The League only believes that cyclists can lane split if there is a bike lane to the right. I don't agree with this opinion at all because the last thing a cyclists should do is remain in the back of a pack of cars at a red light. The polution from the exhaust and the heat of the engines during the summer make it unbearable and dangerous. Without the ability to lane split at a red light, you kill much of the benefit of riding a bicycle in the first place.
noisebeam
03-09-05, 12:46 PM
>>>13. To safely change lanes in traffic, bicyclists must:
Be able to ride with one hand to signal a turn <<<<<
I've been saying this for the longest that a person using a Third Eye mirror is less likely to do this. The answer to change lanes is to use hand signals not look in the mirror and turn.
>>>>>11. In order to commute to work year-round by bicycle:
You will probably need a fleet of bicycles, in case one breaks down
You will probably need a front white light and rear red light or reflector
I answered this question correctly but do not agree with it at all. I think their recomendation for rear lighting is dangerous for the cyclist who rides at night and it needs to be revised This is the same position Forrester has in "Effective Cycling" and it is outdated.
Having only a rear reflector at night is asking for trouble. In fact, having a single red light in todays high speed roadways is insufficient. You need two or more blinkies with seven or more leds in each one.
The advantage of a mirror is that you can see behind you without traffic knowing you are thinking about a merge. I don't use a mirror but often find it frustrating that a look over the shoulder tells some cautious drivers that you may be merging and they slow down, when in fact it would have been better for flow for you to merge behind them. The key is that if you have a mirror you should use it to be aware of traffic and for preparing for a merge, but still look over shoulder before merge and use appropriate hand signals.
As to lighting. I find many cyclists who have rear blinkies and small front lights and find these are barely visible. While they help and are better than nothing, I think they give a false sense of security. Even while I am on a bike I have barely seen some folks out there with small blinkies.
Al
Dahon.Steve
03-09-05, 12:54 PM
As to lighting. I find many cyclists who have rear blinkies and small front lights and find these are barely visible. While they help and are better than nothing, I think they give a false sense of security. Even while I am on a bike I have barely seen some folks out there with small blinkies.
Al
I agree.
Not all blinkies are created equal and the best ones cost money. The best rear blinky comes as an attachment to a battery operated light and is very expensive. This is why my recommendation was for several flashing at one time with one on back of the helmet.
Great! I got 95% (One wrong)
I responded to the quiz on behalf of Peter Steele, lead singer of Type O Negative. He aced it.
I'm sure Peter is looking for you now.
SpokesInMyPoop
03-09-05, 03:47 PM
>>>>>14. Under what circumstances are bicyclists permitted to pass on the right?
When a dedicated lane exists in which to do so <<<<
This is interesting. The League only believes that cyclists can lane split if there is a bike lane to the right. I don't agree with this opinion at all because the last thing a cyclists should do is remain in the back of a pack of cars at a red light. The polution from the exhaust and the heat of the engines during the summer make it unbearable and dangerous. Without the ability to lane split at a red light, you kill much of the benefit of riding a bicycle in the first place.
I agree. I got this question wrong, too. I do this every morning on my commute in a turn lane at a busy intersection (2 lanes). If I were to make this turn "legally" (I'm a bit confused on this one... I'll do some research later), I'd have to stay in the bike lane on the far right, stop at the other side of the intersection, and cross when the light turns green. That would add a few more minutes to my commute.
So maybe I'm doing an illegal manuveur (sp?? almost looks like manure :P), but when the light turns green for the turn lane, I'm riding into a bike lane. The only thing that sucks about doing this is that I have to make a left turn about 300 feet ahead of this point, and have to go through the hassle of signaling my turn to a bunch of road hogs.
Kestrelman
03-09-05, 03:54 PM
For such a mindless 'quiz', the LAB sure does want a lot of personal information. There's really no reason to ask for name, address, phone number and email, just for access.
I think I'll go ride the wrong way down a sidewalk in protest.
Agreed. A shameless marketing ploy. Utterly deceitful. Despicable. So, I gave them the ex-wife's info. :D
It's OK for motorists to pass a cycist in a shared lane, but it's not OK for a cyclist to pass a motorist in a shared lane. A prime example of a 'motorists first' law. What a bunch of BS!!!
closetbiker
03-09-05, 04:05 PM
I had only 1 mistake and I can cite the source that is specialized in the area of question and has more up to date information than the source used for the answer and my source is the answer I used but was marked as incorrect. (I want a re-count)...from the bicycle helmet safety institue... when to replace a helmet
Bell now recommends every three years, which seems to us too short. They base it partially on updating your helmet technology, but they have not been improving their helmets that much over three year periods, and we consider some of their more recent helmets to be a step backwards, so we would take that with a grain of salt...In sum, we don't find the case for replacing a helmet that meets the ASTM or Snell standards that compelling if the helmet is still in good shape and fits you well....Deterioration depends on usage, care, and abuse...The standards do not permit manufacturers to make a helmet that degrades from sweat...Manufacturers put UV inhibitors in the plastic for their shells that control UV degradation. If your helmet is fading, maybe the UV inhibitors are failing... EPS is a long-lived material little affected by normal environmental factors....
I looked at the question again, and in fairness, the way the question was asked I was wrong. The Consumer Product Safety Commission does recommend replacing your helmet every 3 to 5 years, but I was right according to BHSI.
I just exchanged emails with Randy Swart and he said,
LAW and CPSC are probably being told by their lawyers not to recommend longer use for fear sombody with a beat-up helmet may get injured and sue them...There are millions of riders out there using older helmets and we have not seen any evidence of a problem with the older ones. And I don't think anything on the market outperforms the older helmets in impact protection or coverage, since the designers are just designing to the standard... We don't care if others want to recommend replacement more often--most riders won't do it anyway... The helmet I wore today was made in 1992. I believe its smooth round profile, impact performance and coverage are better than anything on the market at the moment. I am not concerned about the EPS deteriorating.
I asked, "Why, in the last 5 years has this new recomondation appeared?"
He replied,
We call it a combination of too much caution and too much marketing.
So, I still think if Randys' helmet is 13 years old, mine, at 11 years old, is just fine.
:D
Tee Hee!
Ms. Nonna YourBusiness did quite well on that quiz...
One can only wonder what she will do with the junk mail from LAB...
Agreed - not a terribly usefull test, but I suppose the more often we are forced (?) to think about these questions the better (maybe - just looking for an upside to that wasted minute of life).
Bob Hope missed one question too.
This is interesting. The League only believes that cyclists can lane split if there is a bike lane to the right. I don't agree with this opinion at all because the last thing a cyclists should do is remain in the back of a pack of cars at a red light. The polution from the exhaust and the heat of the engines during the summer make it unbearable and dangerous. Without the ability to lane split at a red light, you kill much of the benefit of riding a bicycle in the first place.
In California, you are either vehicle traffic, or pedestrian traffic. Although I doubt it's ever been tested, I suppose you could get a ticket for passing stopped cars by riding between them.
The 'quiz' was obvioulsy just a thinly veiled attempt to get you in the LAB database for solicitations. It gives me the impression that the LAB is more about funding themselves than promoting safe cycling. This may be a faulty impression, but it's the one I now have.
Any solicitations they send to the name/address I provided will be returned, marked "No longer at this address", as William J. Clinton no longer resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
DnvrFox
03-10-05, 07:05 AM
100%
But someone in "Anywhere, CA" is going to be getting some strange mail!
closetbiker
03-10-05, 09:21 AM
It's OK for motorists to pass a cycist in a shared lane, but it's not OK for a cyclist to pass a motorist in a shared lane. A prime example of a 'motorists first' law. What a bunch of BS!!!
I agree, but it is the law in BC too. In fact, it is illegal for any one to pass on the right unless a road user is waiting to make a left hand turn, but motorists as well as cyclists routinly pass on the right.
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