Touring - My first touring bike: What questions should I ask?
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03-12-05, 11:10 AM
I've just about decided to have a bike shop custom assemble a touring bike for me. I've only ever toured with converted hybrids and road bikes before. I think I'm pretty much sure I'm ready and this is the frame I want. I do have a few choices at to bars, gearing and brakes. I really don't know what smart questions to ask before I put down the deposit. Any ideas?
This is the bike:
03-12-05, 11:59 AM
i think if youīre doing fine with the groupset of your other bikes then itīs not necessary to change anything, just copy them.
about gearing, cranks: 22-36-46; cassette: 11-34. i see cantis, thatīs good. i would change the barcons to towntube shifters, this way you have less cables in the front, just personal preference.
03-12-05, 08:48 PM
I like the gearing suggested above. Or for rides in Eastern Canada (lots of flats and very steep hills), make up your own cassette using a 11-34 and a 12-25.
My touring bike has 44-34-22 and 12-14-15-16-17-19-21-25-32. That way, I have closer gears in the most commonly-used range and less duplicates than with the typical wide-range cassette.
And in terms of cabling, if you route cables for bar-end shifters the way they are shown in the middle picture, you get quite neat cabling too.
03-13-05, 08:51 AM
I had a good look at the Urbane bikes at the TO bike show - they're good stuff, also saw a custom frame builder in Guelph who was building lugged steel touring frames with a long wheelbase like Bruce Gordon does (well, he was also selling some very custom road and mountain bikes too)
03-14-05, 04:36 AM
The bike as shown seems to follow the standard pattern for a loaded 700c tourer that rides OK unladen. If you want 700c it looks as good as any out there and better than most.
The modern trend is more for 26" (MTB) wheels on a tourer, and for 1 1/8" headsets.
03-16-05, 10:23 AM
also saw a custom frame builder in Guelph who was building lugged steel touring frames with a long wheelbase like Bruce Gordon does
Do you remember his name, does he have a website at all?
03-21-05, 07:48 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you... here's the info:
Winterborne Custom Bicycle Design & Production
Jason Filer - Owner / Designer / Builder
The people I spoke to at the show were not Jason, but rather people who work for him and are *serious* about bikes. I spoke to them about a custom frame with long chainstays - long enough to use 700c wheels and still have bottle racks behind the seat tube - they said "no problem, in fact, that would be an interesting challenge".
My beater looks like that bike.Same tan tape with Shimano non-Sti brakes. The things to sweat are rims, bars, tires, and the saddle. Make sure the rims are tough enough. Typically that means a rim over 500 grams, like the A719. Bars are personal preference, I really like Ritchey BioMax. Grab a few and see what you like. Tire choice depends a lot on what your area is like, and the weight fully loaded. Hard to go wrong with a quality brand. Shwalbe Marathon is great. Conti Top Tourer is very good.For saddles, I like the Brooks B17, but saddle choice is very personal.
I'd go with Mtn bike pedals. If something happens and you have to walk a few miles, you don't want to do it in road shoes. Of course, you could pack sneakers... One thing I have noticed is that durability drops as the number of speeds go up. That bike built as a 7 speed is dirt cheap.
03-21-05, 10:25 PM
Myrcurial; Robert Beckman's Sakkit Expedition 26 at http://www.coinet.com/~beckman/bikeside.html has a picture of his touring bike with four bottles on it but unfortunatly it only comes with 26 inch wheels and not 700's. I would be interested in hearing how you make out with having a bike built by the folks you mention as I like the thought of using the fourth position as a fuel bottle holder. I'll be taking a look at their webpage later.
03-22-05, 05:38 AM
Unfortunately, family situations mean that I need to wait a few more seasons before a custom bike. I did get a rather sweet deal on a 04 Trek 520 at the show, that'll be my steed for a while as I learn about how different a current generation bike is from my trusty early 80's Raleigh Grand Prix. FWIW I was thinking of the same thing for the 4th position when I first saw the Sakkit - I use alcohol so I'm not so concerned about it, but I don't want to take a swig of alcohol when I'm expecting gatorjuice. :)
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