General Cycling Discussion - Stupid wheels...

I got bout 18 miles into my ride yesterday and it happened, coming into a curb I broke a spoke. So I rode about another 2 miles or so as it progressively got worse stressing all the other spokes. The wheel is going to be fixed up once again by the LBS and I'm ordering a set of XT Disc hubs to Velocity Deep V rims 36H of course. Hopefully this should be a bit stronger wheel.

Now PWRD,There are no stupid wheels just stupid people riding them. :roflmao:

What wheels do you have right now? The rynolites?

It says in Sun Rim's website you can get 48h rynolites. I think that would be pretty strong...

Now PWRD,There are no stupid wheels just stupid people riding them. :roflmao:

Yes, the wheel is simply doing it's best. Value judgements are probably not being welcomed by the wheel lobby.

Reminds of the question "How many physchiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? Answer "Only one but the light bulb must want to change".

haha...I have the ditch witch 32h right now. I'm going to 36H here very shortly....and yeah...it's me, but I choose to say it's the wheel's fault and call it "big guy syndrome"

bully :D

haha...I have the ditch witch 32h right now. I'm going to 36H here very shortly....and yeah...it's me, but I choose to say it's the wheel's fault and call it "big guy syndrome"
Three words: straight gauge spokes

if the 36 dont hold up, find a khs dealer. they offere a mtb tandem with 40 spoke wheels and the sell a set as a replacment item.any khs dealer can get 'em $250 is what I was quoted for a pair. I got lucky and got just the rear for $85 bucks. thay are xt tandem hubs hand laced to ryno lite rims. we had to respace and redish the wheeldown to 135 from 145 but it only took a few minutes and was really easy. I am thinking of getting a complete set so they match and I'll have an extra rear wheel set up.

I second the 40 spoke wheel. The strength of a wheel is not the rim or the hub. It's the spokes. The more spokes to distribute the load the better. The rim construction may help resist twisting, but spoke breakage is all about the spokes.

I would have a 40 spoke wheel built up custom with Wheelsmith or DT spokes. This way you know you are not getting some cheap offbrand spokes that are more likely to be defective. A defective spoke is going to quickly make itself known with your weight.

I have Velocity deep Vs with XT hubs on my elderly Trek 7000 mtb- a very tough set of wheels. But I weigh 158 lbs. so I am not punishing them too severely.
The only thing bad about the deep V rims is trying to find tubes with long presta. They can be hard to find.

What wheels do you have right now? The rynolites?

It says in Sun Rim's website you can get 48h rynolites. I think that would be pretty strong...

Finding a hub would be hard. Only a few companies make them to fit mtb (I don't even remember who)

I have Velocity deep Vs with XT hubs on my elderly Trek 7000 mtb- a very tough set of wheels. But I weigh 158 lbs. so I am not punishing them too severely.
The only thing bad about the deep V rims is trying to find tubes with long presta. They can be hard to find.

You can drill them out pretty easily.

Finding a hub would be hard. Only a few companies make them to fit mtb (I don't even remember who)
Don't forget it's a disc model too

Being something of a big guy myself, I've never broken my wheels. I'm hell on cranksets, but not wheels. I don't know what wheels my raleigh came with, but they are still on the bike, eight years running. You might want to get whatever those are.

It's like flat tires, some people, regardless of size, seem to be more prone to it than others. I'm a big dude, too, but I've ridden really cheap wheels and never had a problem, I don't ever go any lower than 32 spokes, though. You might think about buying that once-in-a-lifetime wheelset, (with the Phil 40h hubs, etc.) if you continue to have problems, and definitely quit busting curbs, ain't you ever heard of Vehicular Cycling? :D

PWRDbyTRD isn't that big. A pair of 36 spoke wheels, laced in a 3X pattern with staright gauge spokes will hold up just fine for him. Although, he should avoid hitting curbs with his front wheel and hop up on the sidewalk.

PWRDbyTRD isn't that big. A pair of 36 spoke wheels, laced in a 3X pattern with staright gauge spokes will hold up just fine for him. Although, he should avoid hitting curbs with his front wheel and hop up on the sidewalk.
I have no problem popping the front wheel onto the curb, I can clear any curb I've found...the rear wheel is my issue.

Too much accelration from those legs old mate. Slow down on your take offs :D :D :D

PWRDbyTRD isn't that big. A pair of 36 spoke wheels, laced in a 3X pattern with staright gauge spokes will hold up just fine for him. Although, he should avoid hitting curbs with his front wheel and hop up on the sidewalk.
Dude, WTF are you talking about. No offence TRD, you are a big guy. More than 3 times of what I weigh. He Isn't that big?? WTF?? Do you see 500# guys riding bikes, I don't.

Dude, WTF are you talking about. No offence TRD, you are a big guy. More than 3 times of what I weigh. He Isn't that big?? WTF?? Do you see 500# guys riding bikes, I don't.
none taken. I think I am the biggest on the forum. though I have heard of a few bigger guys who ride trikes.

so if it's you're rear wheel do you think you could lean more onto the handlebars when you go up curbs?

so if it's you're rear wheel do you think you could lean more onto the handlebars when you go up curbs?
working on my technique, but I'm still not on par. I might practice a bit more when I know the wheel can handle it.

I see, I'm pretty sure that would eliminate you're problem if you can get it right(it's hard!).

heheheh when they go, does it sound like a bunch of dried spaghetti snapping? :D

TRD, do you ride clipless or flat pedals?
It's really easy with clipless or toeclip pedals to "lift" the rear wheel off the ground, and up and over a curb.
I doo this all the time on roadbikes, but i'm a lot lighter than you.

none taken. I think I am the biggest on the forum. though I have heard of a few bigger guys who ride trikes.
I was responding to dieseldan's post where he said that you weren't 'that' big and there are others who are bigger who ride bikes.

Look on the bright side PWRDbyTRD, you're doing spokes, I'm doing mecurochrome and bandages. I'd settle for a compromise. :D

Look on the bright side PWRDbyTRD, you're doing spokes, I'm doing mecurochrome and bandages. I'd settle for a compromise. :D
hahaha good point ;)

Dude, WTF are you talking about. No offence TRD, you are a big guy. More than 3 times of what I weigh. He Isn't that big?? WTF?? Do you see 500# guys riding bikes, I don't.
I'm referring to the 40 and 48 spoke recommendations.

none taken. I think I am the biggest on the forum. though I have heard of a few bigger guys who ride trikes.
Naw I believe Ii saw some dude in the 'bent section who's 610

I'm referring to the 40 and 48 spoke recommendations
when I started I weighed in around 430lbs. I got down to around 375 and got out my bike again. I promptly went through that wheel and a year later I've gon through 2 more. both were inexpensive replacments,but properly tension relieved and tensioned and trued by a competent wheel builder. Is it nessesary to have 40 or 48 spoke wheels ? absolutly not. but truthfully I dont like truing them and replacing spokes every 100 miles or so. add to that the pressure of jumping on and off curbs,with the weight considered, lack of technique,etc.

TRD, I'm with you. I have BGS as well .Currently I am around 325 @6'2" and my goal is 275lbs. that is as small is as is healthy for me. I am a big guy ...no way around it. If I want to ride a bike in a society that seems to revolve around 150lb guys ,I just need to accept that and get the heavy duty parts. I've had my eye on a colnago that will be my reward when I hit my goal. until then I just deal with the broken parts and try to replace them with ones I dont need to worry about. even if they are overkill.

plus at our weight, we weigh in more then alot of tandem teams and they use 40 an 48 spoke wheels to deal with the extra weight and stresses.

although to be fair I was told by someone in the tandem forum that they had ridden tandem for 20 years on 36 spoke wheels with few problems.

Hey PWRDbyTRD I will sell you the Xero XR-03s off my commuter. 16 spoke front and 20 spoke rear. Cheap. :D I have trued the front 2 or 3 times this year already. Thank god my Delgado X/105 32 spoke wheels go on this weekend.

I still say you should look into the Salsa Gordo. They do go up to 48 spokes (32, 36, 40, or 48) and are SUPER strong. That said I have no clue what to lace it to (40 spoke that is). :(