"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - How do you explain this sport to friends/family/coworkers?

Like all Roadies, we are such devoted fans of cycling that we want to share it with everyone we meet and educate everyone who asks about it. We want to explain why we have adapted our life around a niche sport that no one understands.

My girlfriend didn’t appreciate the sport. At her first bike race, she turned to me with eyes of stone and said, “To be honest with you, it looked like a bunch of guys riding around in circles for a couple of hours. I was bored out of my mind.”

I knew exactly what she meant. At first glance, that's what a bike race looks like. It’s fast and it looks very dangerous, but without some sort of commentary, she would never feel the same hook that we've all felt.

It’s a sport that’s full of jargon and nuance. Very tough to explain.
So my question is this:

How do YOU explain it?
And how do you keep their attention?
Is there a single source that covers it all?
A book you regularly recommend?
Is there a magazine article that spells it out adequately?
OR do you just tell them to watch Breaking Away?

I don't try to explain it because unless one has actually done it then they couldn't possiby appreciate the nuances. As far as watching a bike race, well I rank it right up there with watching golf, baseball, tennis, bocce, marathon running, chess, cricket, paint dry, grass grow............. :D

Like all Roadies, we are such devoted fans of cycling that we want to share it with everyone we meet and educate everyone who asks about it. We want to explain why we have adapted our life around a niche sport that no one understands.

My girlfriend didn’t appreciate the sport. At her first bike race, she turned to me with eyes of stone and said, “To be honest with you, it looked like a bunch of guys riding around in circles for a couple of hours. I was bored out of my mind.”

I knew exactly what she meant. At first glance, that's what a bike race looks like. It’s fast and it looks very dangerous, but without some sort of commentary, she would never feel the same hook that we've all felt.

It’s a sport that’s full of jargon and nuance. Very tough to explain.
So my question is this:

How do YOU explain it?
And how do you keep their attention?
Is there a single source that covers it all?
A book you regularly recommend?
Is there a magazine article that spells it out adequately?
OR do you just tell them to watch Breaking Away?

If you have trouble keeping their attention, change the subject. Some people just don't want to know.
The best result I know of is to invite them on a ride on a perfect day. If that does not do it for them, don't try to explain it.
Or........
If your audience is male, start with the subject of spandex and females on bikes. ;)

I try to give a breif explanation of; 1. What is involved in positioning, 2. How the draft plays into tactics, 3. How riders with different strengths will approach a race very differently. If they are still interested then a breif explanation of Team Tactics is also helpfull. Throw in a few NASCAR references, (I see similarities in draft dynamics, esp if it is a restrictor plate race), and you are all set.

I don't. All they know is that I commute to get some training miles. Fully dressed in my team kit. They know that is not something they could do out of the blue. And my sister thought that if I keep on training and racing I could ride the Tour. I didn't bother to explain anything to her. :) They all wonder why and how I have 23" quads and weight only 130 lb. :)

For your girl friend, have her standing close to the finish line in an upper cat race. She would feel the draft of the pack as they fly pass her. If that's not enough, have her witness the chaos during a field sprint and to witness a crash. Riders and bikes flying every where.

A book you regularly recommend?

No, but if I would it would be The Rider (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582342903/qid=1111343468/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-7928128-8362507). It almost made me climb Mont Aigoual a few years back (if only I had had more time when I was in the area).

I have had the "Why don't you ride Tour de France?"-comment as well... I don't know what to say to that.

/Csson

I think the best thing to explain is the sprint finish in last years TDF with Armstrong, Kloden, Basso, Ullrich, and Landis. I guess depending on who you are explaining it too. But I thought that was really interesting not only the actual action but also story and the tatics. I mean when it comes down to it cycling has everything that most other sports have.

The right place to start might be what sport do you like and why. If they like college basketball for the upsets and the Cynderilla teams then you have got Vockler. If like sports for strategy then you have got strategy all over the place, you just have to understand it. If you like great feets get on a bike and climb a mountain, or try to cruise along at 25 mph for a hour, then watch and realize what they are doing is really impressive. If you just like action and hitting well group sprints and track racing and the occasional crash. It has got it all. Of course my brother says unlike NASCAR you feel bad when someone crashes since you know it hurts

Although this is all coming from someone who likes to watch curling.

And how do you keep [get] their attention?

Just to describe to uninterested folks how hard it is to do the Tour...

Even though running consecutive marathon is probably harder (purely physiologically), I often like to compare the Tour de France to running consecutive marathons over a period of three weeks with two days off... That usually gets the attention of even a someone who is a complete cycling ignoramus... ;)

I have some framed Tour and Giro pics up in my office and at least once per week some asks me, "Are you going to be in the Tour de France?" It is amazing how little of a grasp some people have on this sport.

Don't bother. If you have to explain it their not going to get it anyway.

SS

As a female cycle racing fan, here are my thoughts:

I know Bob Roll is an acquired taste, but his 2004 Tour de France book is a good general introduction and pretty digestible. I love his other books, too, but maybe not as a first course.

The Rider, mentioned by a previous poster, is one of my favorite books, and I would recommend it too...

When I was first learning about racing I found the live reports from cyclingnews.com to be very instructive about the color, culture, and strategy of racing from start to finish. (Velonews.com has live reports, too, but without the Aussie cheek.) What you see on TV is so truncated. Maybe pick an exciting stage that's still online and let her see how it unfolds.

Also, one aspect that can be compelling is the landscape of the course...watching the Grand Tours is like touring the countries...with the Giro coming up in May, you have the perfect opportunity to point this out. Show her the pictures of Milan-Sanremo on cyclingnews, some of them are breathtaking.

And, lets face it, most pro racers are exceedingly fit young men and they just look so happy on the top step of the podium. I mean, Petacchi, Boonen, Voeckler, even Cipo--what's not to like?

Koko.

I tell ya what works for me. I just put OLN on TV on Sunday afternoon at 5:00 pm. Very shortly thereafter my wife runs screaming from the room.

I tell ya what works for me. I just put OLN on TV on Sunday afternoon at 5:00 pm. Very shortly thereafter my wife runs screaming from the room.

OLN's coverage almost has me running, screaming from the room. Just say "pushing the pedals in anger" one more time.

OLN's coverage almost has me running, screaming from the room. Just say "pushing the pedals in anger" one more time.

Just wait til the Tour Day France.

OLN's coverage almost has me running, screaming from the room. Just say "pushing the pedals in anger" one more time.

I'm part of a small group of cyclists where I work who have brought in their beater bikes and trainers so we can group ride over lunch. Our favorite line is from last years (I believe) TDF "... Jan Ulrich, a beast of a man".

As for how I explain biking (as I don't race), I tell people it's my mental health time and that I like to ride around in brightly colored underware :D

I have tried to explain cycling and it's very hard to do. There are a few solid rules but generally bike races are not as constricted by artificial rules as those found in say ball or court sports. The things that get done are usually done not to satisfy some rule of play but to satisfy some laws of nature. To understand what happens in a bike race is to understand more of the physical and pyschological world as it relates to cycling. To some people, especially cyclists, understanding what happens in a race is intuitive but to others, it becomes a study in the sciences... something few people are prepared to do when all they want is some visual entertainment. Cycling is a sport of doing and unless someone has ridden a bike, it's very hard for them to get in touch with the sport of bicycle racing. They don't have to have raced but there's just something enlightening about riding a bike that goes a long way to help lay the groundwork for understanding the whats, ifs, whens and whys of bicycle races.

The most popular sport on TV is "Pro Wrestling". Perhaps there is merit in failing to be popular.

The most popular sport on TV is "Pro Wrestling". Perhaps there is merit in failing to be popular.I'd rather be popular. Gonna have to work on my smackdown. :)

I find that despite it's simple appearance, cycling is flush with aspects that can attract a greater range of folks than many other sports.

In competitive cycling, there different styles like road, mountain, track, and cross. There's climbers, sprinters, rollers, randonneurs, and others.

There's cycling for fitness. What other activity can a lazy, overweight guy take up that allows him to keep his HR up to 150 or so for 2-4 hours, take in some scenery, and clear his mind?

There's commuting which connects you to better fitness, relieves you of expenses for parking and gas, lessens your impact on the environment, and clears your mind.

There's touring which does the same as commuting but at greater distances, improves your fitness, and helps to take in some additional scenery.

Personally, I think that if you can't find something in cycling that you find compelling, competitive or otherwise, then you won't find it anywhere else you look. All it takes is a bike and a willingness to try new things.

Try a sprint. Can't dial it up to 40mph? Now watch Petacchi and Boonen duke it out and appreciate what a sprinter can really do.

Climb that little hill over there. How many times did you stop? Now watch Armstrong, Heras, Basso, and Ullrich level a mountain at 15mph that you'd stop on ten times as much as that little hill.

Ride out from home far enough to get lost and have to find your way back. Know what home means when you have to decide to take a turn or continue going straight (I love this feeling).

Cycling beats all. It can be meditative and solitary or collective and social. High intensity or lilting. In the moment or over the horizon. Against the clock or without a second hand.

To conclude, my suggestion is to start a newbie with a bike and casual ride. Interest in more esoteric facets of cycling (e.g. Armstrong/Simeoni feud) will follow given enough time.

^^^^^ Well said, really well, gcasillo... ;)

Yes, but given one chance to hook someone into the sport (as opposed to the gutter), what do you have them read?

How do you explain the bonk?
The criterium?
The paceline?
The desire to spend 5 hours driving to a race that lasts 90 minutes and you have absolutely NO chance of winning?

Is there one source that wraps it up in one read?

I'm hearing a collective "no", and I'm noting that in many cases, we've given up trying.

I'm not being critical. On the contrary, I'm going to endeavor to remedy the problem.

Thanks for your responses. Keep 'em coming.
Stay tuned.

I don't think reading about cycling is going to get them hooked.

I agree all the way with ^^^^

The only way to understand is to go to a race and see what it is like. Someone who likes auto racing can like bicycle racing much easier...

So 58, let me ask you to clarify: you're saying that someone can pick up all those things simply by watching a race?

I had no one to explain racing to me. I just picked it up as I went along.

But it appealed to me right away and I was willing to take the time to learn. If someone has no immediate interest in the sport it's pretty tough to get them to care. For instance, I detest baseball. You can explain to me the intricasies of the game until the cows come home but I'm still not going to like it.

If you're talking strictly racing/competitive cycling and getting someone interested in that, then you're dealing with the same problems other sports have. If people don't know the nuances of the sport, it'd better look fun. The only way I think you can make bike racing look fun to the average Joe is track cycling. Phil Liggett has said so himself. It's condensed and high-speed with a stadium atmosphere. Much more conducive to a TV type audience than road racing. Cyclocross could fare okay. Mountain might be too spread out and its technical aspects are probably going to be lost on most folks.

I think bike racing can take off in the States if more velodromes are built. Get kids to a velodrome and bike racing could blossom. Like Laggard said, and I'm the same, bike racing is something some folks like right away, but it takes time to really understand it.

EventServices, you pitching a TV show or book deal? These are the questions I'd ask if I were doing so.

If you're talking strictly racing/competitive cycling and getting someone interested in that, then you're dealing with the same problems other sports have. If people don't know the nuances of the sport, it'd better look fun. The only way I think you can make bike racing look fun to the average Joe is track cycling. Phil Liggett has said so himself. It's condensed and high-speed with a stadium atmosphere. Much more conducive to a TV type audience than road racing.

Exactly. Imagine someone seeing a bike race for the first time and all it is is the peloton cruising along at 22 mph for two hours. How boring would that look to them?

how about explaining to people why YOU ride? Doesn't everyone get sick sometimes of explaining to people why you like to ride your bike? And answering stupid questions, "What do you want to do that for?" or "Why is it so important to get out on your bike?" etc. GRRR.....you'd think that with obesity causing 10% of all deaths every year, we wouldn't have to come up with reasons for not SITTING ON OUR BUTTS ON A NICE DAY!

how about explaining to people why YOU ride?

That's actually a pretty easy question to respond to... just point out something that they enjoy doing and ask them why they do that.

I tell ya what works for me. I just put OLN on TV on Sunday afternoon at 5:00 pm. Very shortly thereafter my wife runs screaming from the room.

Sounds like our wives should get together on Sundays.

Don't bother. If you have to explain it their not going to get it anyway.

SS
I have to agree. Sadly here in Oz no one is interested much in anything other people do. I've ridden to my place of employ for the past six years and not once has anyone ever asked serious questions about bike riding. I've been able to help a few who I've found by accident are having problems with bike associated stuff but it never leads to anything. I'm still the only bike commuter there. If I ever try to talk about bike riding their eyes just glaze over or I get "you ride 50k every Saturday morning?' "you must be mad".
They know I race but never ask how I went on Sunday.
I started a social ride group about four years ago which was reasonably successful with trips away etc. but it splintered this year so I went racing. Of all the members of that group, not one is interested in how my racing is going though I still see some of them occasionally.

We are way too affluent here. There's little need to get involved with others when you have loads of chrome plated shiny stuff in two houses, two cars, a boat plus computers and Gameboys and the tele, and movies and clubs...................................... most people spending 90% of their waking hours working their tails off to pay for it all with little time for recreation.
Australians watch footy, swimming and motor racing, not bike racing, end of argument.

Having said all that I find it difficult to get much interest in much I say here so I guess it's gotta be me. :(

I don't find a lot of non-cyclists who are truly interested in hearing an explanation. However in the times I've tried to explain things to them, I've found it best to actually double-team them by having another cyclist along. One cyclist gets to play dumb and ask the questions from the side of the third party who's interested. Since the person priming the pump so to speak is also a cyclist, he/she can ask the questions that best steers the explanation. This helps the non-cyclist get better traction on what things they should pick up on or what further questions they should be asking. Part of the problem with educating is knowing what questions are in the mind of the person being taught.

Having said all that I find it difficult to get much interest in much I say here so I guess it's gotta be me. :(

Nonsense. I always stop and read your posts Berny. Gutsy effort taking up racing late in life and good to see you getting in the results. I also like reading your views on equipment and racing (I agree with much of it!). It's like you're new enough to be still on a learning curve and have enthusiasm but know enough to pick out the BS. Keep up your posts!

I also agree with your views on our countrymen. Aussies have this reputation for being outgoing, relaxed and friendly. The truth is Australia is very uptight, middle class, conservative, narrowminded, materialistic and worried about appearances without showing much interest in what others do. I'm generalising of course, but the perception and reality are quite different.

Nonsense. I always stop and read your posts Berny. Gutsy effort taking up racing late in life and good to see you getting in the results. I also like reading your views on equipment and racing (I agree with much of it!). It's like you're new enough to be still on a learning curve and have enthusiasm but know enough to pick out the BS. Keep up your posts!

I also agree with your views on our countrymen. Aussies have this reputation for being outgoing, relaxed and friendly. The truth is Australia is very uptight, middle class, conservative, narrowminded, materialistic and worried about appearances without showing much interest in what others do. I'm generalising of course, but the perception and reality are quite different.

Gee whiz you were quite smart back in 2005 Classic1. Not bad, not bad at all. Whatever happened to your mate berny?

I'm not explaining at all. My coworkers already have their eyes wide open in disbelief and astonishment when I tell them that I ride 30 miles to work on my bicycle.
They can't fathom why I'd put myself through such a cruel suffering. :lol:

Epic thread revival

-bullseye

So was this thread the impetus for "Roadie" ?

As a 53 yr. old woman in her first year of racing I talk up my training rides (I train with mostly guys) -- the view from the back of a 3-abreast paceline, with 19 finely-sculpted Lycra-clad derrières in front of me. Yes, for a cougar, the scenery is very nice. ;);)

Most people think I'm lying about my age so discussion of bike racing becomes secondary to my proving that I really am that old. :50:

I started this thread 3 years ago when researching "Roadie". The answers told me that I was pretty much on the right track: there's nothing out there that really makes an attempt to bridge the gap between us and non-us. (I wrote 99% of it in 2002. I later added a bunch of what I gleaned from BF.)

Now someone needs to write a book to explain the very-uptight-middle-class-conservative-narrowminded-materialistic-worried-about-appearances-without-showing-much-interest-in-what-others-do Aussies. You mean MORE uptight that most Americans?

Now someone needs to write a book to explain the very-uptight-middle-class-conservative-narrowminded-materialistic-worried-about-appearances-without-showing-much-interest-in-what-others-do Aussies. You mean MORE uptight that most Americans?

Impossible. They were founded by convicts, we were founded by puritans. You do the math :D

What happened to the girlfriend? I hope you dumped her.

Her and several more like her, yes.

Her and several more like her, yes.

you are wise grasshopper

Why the F would I even attempt to explain cycling to anyone?

I revel in the world's view of me as utterly insane. All I have to do to perpetuate this notion is ride my road bike 1000 miles each month. I enjoy doing that anyway, so it all works out perfectly.

I have some framed Tour and Giro pics up in my office and at least once per week some asks me, "Are you going to be in the Tour de France?" It is amazing how little of a grasp some people have on this sport.

What do you mean? It's just bike riding...just get a bike and show up.

Sheesh...what's so hard about that? :D ;) Riding bikes is what kids do, after all!

And yes, I realize I'm replying to a 3 year old post by a guy who may not even come around much anymore.

Riding bikes is what kids do, after all!

Therefore, I am a kid again.
And there we have the essence of our passion.

Haha, thread dredging.

You can't explain this sport anymore than you can explain any other niche sport like Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Rock Climbing, Triathlon (Duathlon would be even harder to explain). Just tell people it's what you love to do and you like pushing yourself. End of story.

Impossible. They were founded by convicts, we were founded by puritans. You do the math :D

Georgia?

Haha, thread dredging.

You can't explain this sport ... End of story.


I'm gonna go ahead and disagree.

Well.....you can explain it, but people who don't ride can't fully grasp it most times. They might nod and go "oh yeah...hmmm....wow", and then marvel at how much I can eat and still be "skinny". Then the conversation moves on to other intriguing subjects such as "American Idol", or getting drunk after the softball game.

It's a lot like climbing a mountain in a blizzard. Until you've done it, you really have no idea.

Yes, for a cougar, the scenery is very nice. ;);)



Cougar on a bike....I need to go to Cali