funbun
03-24-05, 01:56 PM
What storage capacity do would you guys suggest for light touring 2500 cubic inches? I'm interested in keep weighto a bare minimum.
Touring - Panniers for light wieght touring
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Ceiliazul
03-24-05, 02:07 PM
Hey there, Funbun! I have the exact same question. I decided that I can live with 2,500 based on throwing my stuff in a 12x12x18 inch box.
I'm leaning heavily toward the TransIt Panniers from Performance Bike. http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?sku=16436
If you add some knick-knack to kick the price over $75 (a tube or something) you can use the $20-off coupon and make them even more affordable. 2,800 cubic inches for $50 ain't bad.
Has anyone had experience with the TransIt line, and with the Epic panniers in particular?
-john
[edit:] Upon further analysis, my question is not exactly the same. Sorry for the threadjack.
I'm leaning heavily toward the TransIt Panniers from Performance Bike. http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?sku=16436
If you add some knick-knack to kick the price over $75 (a tube or something) you can use the $20-off coupon and make them even more affordable. 2,800 cubic inches for $50 ain't bad.
Has anyone had experience with the TransIt line, and with the Epic panniers in particular?
-john
[edit:] Upon further analysis, my question is not exactly the same. Sorry for the threadjack.
keayne
03-24-05, 02:11 PM
hey funbun,
RE : What storage capacity do would you guys suggest for light touring 2500 cubic inches? I'm interested in keep weighto a bare minimum.
Do you mean what panniers for 2500 cubic inches? Or are you talking about what to bring? I think I am confused about the question.
RE : What storage capacity do would you guys suggest for light touring 2500 cubic inches? I'm interested in keep weighto a bare minimum.
Do you mean what panniers for 2500 cubic inches? Or are you talking about what to bring? I think I am confused about the question.
Guest
03-24-05, 02:52 PM
Those Transits from Performance are indeed pretty lightweight. You'll definitely be bare bones if you use those bags.
Koffee
Koffee
funbun
03-24-05, 04:36 PM
I'm talking about pannier that 2,500 cubic inches of storage space. How many cubic inches or liters does one need for light touring?
funbun
03-24-05, 04:38 PM
In other words I don't care how heavy the panniers are.
Ceiliazul
03-25-05, 04:10 PM
Well, I threw my clothes, tools, stove, etc in a box to figure that out. If I can fit it comfortably into a square box, I should be able to cram it into panniers of equal volume, right? Koffee pointed out that the small pockets of a pannier might account for the bag feeling smaller than its rated volume.
Anyone have better ideas for deciding on necessary volume?
-john
Anyone have better ideas for deciding on necessary volume?
-john
MichaelW
03-26-05, 05:09 AM
With small loads, the weight of your luggage system can make up a significant part of the load. If you are travelling ultra-light then you should pay attention to the load/weight ratio of your luggage.
For smaller loads, Carradice saddlebags are hard to beat. Dont be fooled by the old-fashioned materials, they are light, tough and practical. You can use an SQR mount, or a saddle with bag loops. A Brooks B17 has loops, but is heavy, however if you compare it to the weight of a lightweight saddle + a seatpost rack things look a little different.
For smaller loads, Carradice saddlebags are hard to beat. Dont be fooled by the old-fashioned materials, they are light, tough and practical. You can use an SQR mount, or a saddle with bag loops. A Brooks B17 has loops, but is heavy, however if you compare it to the weight of a lightweight saddle + a seatpost rack things look a little different.
gcasillo
03-26-05, 06:14 AM
Arkel T-42 (http://www.arkel-od.com/panniers/t42/overview.asp?fl=0&site=). 50 in³ to spare. Got a pair recently. Love 'em. I use one for commuting with a shoulder strap and both for grocery runs. I can't wait to head out for a couple light tours this Summer.
keayne
03-26-05, 04:22 PM
In other words I don't care how heavy the panniers are.
some good suggestions here, I have concerns with some of the lightweight panniers lacking in the durability. I found the ones I wanted buy bringing in all of the stuff I needed (roughly) in to the store. To me this seemed kinda strange, but the store also provides weights to approximate loads, stuff sacks, and sleeping bags, pads, tents. etc.
If you know a place that you are going to get them from, see if you can arrange the same. I think the whole external smaller pocket, does account for volume, and Koffee (i think) is right, that that will affect the way you buy. Some like extra external pockets, (me) others like one big volume.
I ended up buying a larger size than originally sought, and had to be concerned with fitting, as a bud's heel's kept hitting his large panniers, with some adjustment he fixed it.
As a canuck, I have to do the whole conversion thing all the time...so 2500 cubic inches = 40.97 liters, and I ended up getting the 43 Litre = 2,624.0 cubic inches.
For example, in the pictures below, they are both the same animal, the one with the pockets is the 43 litre, and both have the inside liner with draw cord, comes way out above the height of over flap, in case I ever need it.
FYI - Both are about the same dimensions 40 L = 1.8 kilograms (3.97 pounds) 43 L = 1.6 kilograms (3.53 pounds)
some good suggestions here, I have concerns with some of the lightweight panniers lacking in the durability. I found the ones I wanted buy bringing in all of the stuff I needed (roughly) in to the store. To me this seemed kinda strange, but the store also provides weights to approximate loads, stuff sacks, and sleeping bags, pads, tents. etc.
If you know a place that you are going to get them from, see if you can arrange the same. I think the whole external smaller pocket, does account for volume, and Koffee (i think) is right, that that will affect the way you buy. Some like extra external pockets, (me) others like one big volume.
I ended up buying a larger size than originally sought, and had to be concerned with fitting, as a bud's heel's kept hitting his large panniers, with some adjustment he fixed it.
As a canuck, I have to do the whole conversion thing all the time...so 2500 cubic inches = 40.97 liters, and I ended up getting the 43 Litre = 2,624.0 cubic inches.
For example, in the pictures below, they are both the same animal, the one with the pockets is the 43 litre, and both have the inside liner with draw cord, comes way out above the height of over flap, in case I ever need it.
FYI - Both are about the same dimensions 40 L = 1.8 kilograms (3.97 pounds) 43 L = 1.6 kilograms (3.53 pounds)
stokell
03-27-05, 10:55 AM
Now I'm confused:
Grams and kilos are weight measurements like pounds (unless your English then it's stones because pounds is money).
Litres are volume measurement, like how much beer you drink (I'll have a pint - that's 20 ounces--unless your in the USA where a pint is 16oz.)
The weight will depend on what you put in the panniers, the panniers will not increase or decrease in size so they should be measured by volume, not weight. If we would all use metric, there should be no confusion.
Grams and kilos are weight measurements like pounds (unless your English then it's stones because pounds is money).
Litres are volume measurement, like how much beer you drink (I'll have a pint - that's 20 ounces--unless your in the USA where a pint is 16oz.)
The weight will depend on what you put in the panniers, the panniers will not increase or decrease in size so they should be measured by volume, not weight. If we would all use metric, there should be no confusion.
funbun
03-27-05, 09:17 PM
If we would all use metric, there should be no confusion.
Hear, hear!!! I wish the U.S. would switch! :mad:
Hear, hear!!! I wish the U.S. would switch! :mad:
acantor
03-28-05, 03:10 PM
You don't need to carry everything in panniers.
On my lightweight tours I haul everything in two smallish Cannondale panniers, a daypack strapped to the top of the rear rack (for bulky items), a fannypack (for wallet, pens, Swiss Army knife, etc.), and a wedge-shaped toolkit that attaches to the seat post under the seat. To make more room in my panniers, I Velcro a pump to a water bottle cage, and Velcro a lock to the top of the rear rack before bungy-cording the daypack to the rack.
On my lightweight tours I haul everything in two smallish Cannondale panniers, a daypack strapped to the top of the rear rack (for bulky items), a fannypack (for wallet, pens, Swiss Army knife, etc.), and a wedge-shaped toolkit that attaches to the seat post under the seat. To make more room in my panniers, I Velcro a pump to a water bottle cage, and Velcro a lock to the top of the rear rack before bungy-cording the daypack to the rack.