Mountain Biking - DOC vs. .243

Hey, i'm looking at two frames for the new season, both steel and both somewhat around the same price. As you can tell the Evil Doc and and .243 frames. Just a stright forward question, which frame do you think would suit my riding better. I ride mostly urban but am going to try to venture into the word of freeride trail riding this summer. Thanks

Umm they are both meant for the same thing and the geometries are similar. DOC is likely lighter, the .243 is a beast.

Also look a the Transition TrailorPark. Unreal frame

the doc is super popular this year, its definatly sick. its popularity may make it scarce though

The Block 8 Journeyman is also looking popular anybody rode one or have any info?

The Trail-or-Park looks nice. Are the rear dropouts set for QR or solid axles and those seat stays look pretty radical, what is the price in Canadian

I am guessing you both spend time on ridemonkey...one thing, don't fall into the ridemonkey purchasing rut. Its an expensive rut to live in.

The dropouts work with either. IT has a neat tensioner systems that mounts either. But in reality I would always use a TA with it :) Frame ends up around 400$...you buy direct from Kyle. The owners are good people :) Your best deal comes when you buy it with a fork. I bought it last year with a slider and the frame was basically free.

Whats the ridemokey rut? What do you suggest for a fork frame combo from transition?

Depends. What kind of riding do you want to do and how much money. I am partial to the z1 but if you don't have the cash maybe go for a djer.

Ridemonkey rut is a joke I use to explain how ridemonkey works. half the people there are sponsored or industry workers and don't pay full price for diddly. They live in this fantasy world where "a-type is the best" however 99% of the time the best actually means newest most expensive. Ridemonkey is the epitome of "buying into the hype"...

Awesome, really looking the transition with the dj1, or would the flick be more worth the money with longer travel

Its sexy. Thats what I run. The bike feels perfect for park, urban and djing.

Oh and the transition is lighter than .243and the geometry feels better. I loved .243 and always wanted one....until I got my ToP

i totally agree about ridemonkey.. but i love rm. b/c half the people get stuff new at cost, and they have to have the latest and greatest, they sell their stuff with minimal use for dirt cheap, and anyone who didnt get those deals has to lower their prices to almost unreal levels too. compared with what stuff is selling on ebay, the same stuff on rm is selling at about half the price.

What is the aprox shipping time if you might know?

Edit: srry my bad ytou would know, we live in diffreent places

case in point... http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114038

Took mind 3 months ;)...but I pre ordered with a 2005 fork last summer, so I had to wait for stock.

I still like and visit ridemonkey often. I just find it too cliquish and kind of annoying. What killed it for me was the respect group/thread/*******...they drove me nuts. I stopped visiting for about 3 months because of how annoying they were.

Or you can get a Cowan for a bit less than a DOC or a .243

Its sexy. Thats what I run. The bike feels perfect for park, urban and djing.
mael, do you have any pics of your ToP

Only as a ghetto SS...

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=18191
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=18192
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=18190
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=72393&highlight=top

Its torn down right now. Getting a TA rear wheel and a SS conversion kit so it will be a true SS. Beyond the drive train, thats basically how she will look. I also have a thomson seatpost that can go all the way down, making it nice and clean looking.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=72393

edit: heh, dang me and my slow internet... yeh, its the internets fault.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=72393

edit: heh, dang me and my slow internet... yeh, its the internets fault.

Here are some pics that I never posted.

definatly cool

What's that front derrailuer doing on there?

haha... its a makeshift chain guide

How many bikes do you have Mael?

Yep. It holds the chain on when I am jumping. I even went the side guides tighter so the chain had no side to side movement. Soon enough this will be a true SS and I will be posting pics as soon as I finish her off. I just need some spanking new wheels :D

How many bikes do you have Mael?

3

1 - dh
1 - xc/trail/kind of fr bike
1 - djer/urban

i only have 2, and they serve the same purpose.... DJ!

Why 2 bikes for the same thing? I made sure my bikes were different enough that they wouldn't overlap much.

I have 2, Road and FR. But Mael, my question was meant to be more indepth. I was lookin for brand and specs, maybe pictures if your feelin up to it. Let us live vicariously through the computer through your posts as a Whistler Freerider. :D

I saw this bike in phoenix in a shop, it had a surly single speed rear hub that made a really cool sounding noise when it clicked forward. Maybe you should get one of those :P

well ones a bmx that i race in the summers and my p.1 is a jump bike with dh capabilitys

will some one here see if ridemonkey works for them, im trying to get on, and the site wont load

I have thought of it. But really I have a friend who is buying a bike with the wheels on it. Should be able to get them cheap. If not then I might buy a rynolite built on a surly for sure. :)



I have 2, Road and FR. But Mael, my question was meant to be more indepth. I was lookin for brand and specs, maybe pictures if your feelin up to it. Let us live vicariously through the computer through your posts as a Whistler Freerider.


Seriously you want more details? haha...

And yes ridemonkey is down.

And yes ridemonkey is down.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Seems like it isn't loading for me either.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36144&item=7145339050&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V *drools*

Not bad. I would never spend the money on king.

sweet christ on a cross.... thats one expensive hub!

Heh, costs more than my bike did.
Of course, my bike has more money in it now, but I got it for $370.