Commuting - does Dog Dazer work?

Anyone use ultrasonic Dog Dazer to stop dogs? The Dazer website seems to indicate it works well (big surprise) and I'd be inclined to use this form of repellent over pepper spray if it actually works.

http://www.dazer.com/dog-deterrent.jsp

Since I enjoy checking out posts that never get answered here goes. It has been more than three years since you posted. The way product developement cycles are these days If a little widget like the dog dazer was effective there would be dozens of varients by now. I have not heard of others so . . . Also I am a life member of the LAB and the UMCA. Am active in local cycling and compulsively read all the bike gear catalogs I get. Nada, zip, zilch on dog dazers. The only ultrasonic deterent I've heard of is a little molded plastic thingy to be stuck to your car. Supposed to generate ultrasound while you drive and scare deer off of the road. Been tested, did not work. Last, contact the postal worker or meter reader organizations and ask them. Let us know if ANY of them have any dog deterant besides pepper spray, OK?

I do a lot of training in rural areas at night. I get chased on every ride multiple times. Most of the dogs are quite large and aggressive.

This week I was almost hit by a truck because I had to swerve further into the center of the road to avoid a dog that was trying to intercept me.

I dream of buying an airsoft pellet gun and shooting them a few times to train them not to chase me.

I have read that they are practically useless. Get some Halt!

Household ammonia, neat, in a squeeze bottle. You gotta' lead 'em a little to make 'em run through the curtain.

How about some good old fashion Pepper spray!

Get your dog dazer here http://www.tesco-shopping.com/Dazer.htm
Somebody get one and let us know how it works!!!
This place also sells heated insoles for $30 that I've been thinking about trying (haven't gotten around to ordering myself a pair yet) They're hard to find at this website, but are at http://www.tesco-shopping.com/CozyFeetdetail.htm

Every time I see the subject of this thread it reminds me of that hilarious "Dog Poo Gazers" thread of a few weeks ago.

They do frighten them off. Unfortunately frightened dogs defecate.

Which may explain...

Here's a real cheap solution. Spray 'em with water from your water bottle. Scares the crap out of most dogs.

Household ammonia, neat, in a squeeze bottle. You gotta' lead 'em a little to make 'em run through the curtain. --- Vinegar works too and is less injurious than ammonia.

And you can use the vinegar in a squirtgun and it won't dissolve the plastic like ammonia can.

hi I have the dog dazer 2. I initially got it because my next door neighbors keep their dog outside all day and night and the dog will start barking at any given hour for the next half hour. Repeated requests to the neighbor to have it wear a dog collar or take it inside were ignored. When it started barking at 3 in the morning, i got outside to the edge of my lawn and gave it a go. It immediately stopped barking. It started again so I 'shocked' it again. It stopped and ran off to the other side of their house. The dog barked the next night and I did the same....I havent heard it bark since.

I also trained my friend's dog to not bark when someone rings the doorbell...he also has 2 cats and I know they hear it as well as they run off right when I press it. With my use I've found it to work great. I can imagine some dogs might not hear it as their hearing diminishes as they get older like ours does...anyway, not a bad $20 investment.

small air horn (http://www.psfish.net/product.sc;jsessionid=50B1616BFEDEB1E38764AB8C37BF0B14.qscstrfrnt03?productId=4180) - 140dB of get the hell away from me. No aiming or leading required. No worries of anything blowing back onto you either.
http://www.psfish.net/images/1204132429043-496978853.jpeg

I do a lot of training in rural areas at night. I get chased on every ride multiple times. Most of the dogs are quite large and aggressive.

This week I was almost hit by a truck because I had to swerve further into the center of the road to avoid a dog that was trying to intercept me.

I dream of buying an airsoft pellet gun and shooting them a few times to train them not to chase me.

Don't bother w/an airsoft...it wont faze them. Get a Crosman C11 bb pistol. 50.00 online and worth every dime. CO2 cartridge w/an 18 round magazine. It's about the size of a .380 and looks like a real gun, so paint the barrel bright orange. Shoots a standard copper bb @ 420 ft per second. VERY effective because it REALLY stings. And the 'report' slows them down even if you miss. I've trained 3 'problem dogs' w/this method...one owner took exception and I offered him my cell phone to call the Sherriff's Dept. Other than that I've not had a problem w/any owners. I only carry it now when I'm cycling in 'unknown territory' as all the dogs on my commute route and regular rides know me and leave me alone.

Make sure you use a light on your helmet as well as on your handlebar as they will try to avoid the light. I work 2nd shift and 'trained' all 3 dogs at night on my way home.





small air horn (http://www.psfish.net/product.sc;jsessionid=50B1616BFEDEB1E38764AB8C37BF0B14.qscstrfrnt03?productId=4180) - 140dB of get the hell away from me. No aiming or leading required. No worries of anything blowing back onto you either.
http://www.psfish.net/images/1204132429043-496978853.jpeg

This method works, really, really well, too. However, my experience has been that once a problem dog realizes that there is nothing behind the noise it loses it's effect. So, that's when I invested in the CO2 pistol. So, I've got a small arsenal now. :p Direct Stop, Airhorn and the bb gun. I ride rural at night, so I carry a small Bowie knife, too as there are coyote's, etc. in my area. Not to mention intoxicated humans from time to time who make sport, but can turn aggressive. Part of responsible cycle-commuting is to be prepared for any situation.

Don't bother w/an airsoft...it wont faze them. Get a Crosman C11 bb pistol. 50.00 online and worth every dime. CO2 cartridge w/an 18 round magazine. It's about the size of a .380 and looks like a real gun, so paint the barrel bright orange. Shoots a standard copper bb @ 420 ft per second. VERY effective because it REALLY stings. And the 'report' slows them down even if you miss. I've trained 3 'problem dogs' w/this method...one owner took exception and I offered him my cell phone to call the Sherriff's Dept. Other than that I've not had a problem w/any owners. I only carry it now when I'm cycling in 'unknown territory' as all the dogs on my commute route and regular rides know me and leave me alone.

Make sure you use a light on your helmet as well as on your handlebar as they will try to avoid the light. I work 2nd shift and 'trained' all 3 dogs at night on my way home.

This departs from the OP's topic to the point of belonging in Advocacy & Safety but I feel it should be stressed that...
If you feel the dogs you encounter pose enough of a risk that you need to carry any kind of gun (BB or otherwise) then it's time to report said dogs and owners. I found this for Tennessee dog laws (http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stustnst44_17_101_505.htm#large).
Specifically, "Ignorance of the vicious habits or character of the dog on the part of its owner shall be no defense in actions arising under § 44-17-201."

From the web site:

The Dazer is not designed to be effective against all dogs which include docile, deaf, infirm and highly trained dogs.

If it can't even handle the docile and the infirm dogs, what dogs can it handle?

I work with dogs:

squirt bottle will stop many dogs, particularly smaller dogs: However, this won't work with all dogs, and frequently not with large and/or aggressive dogs. Still, the squirt bottle should be your first option as it can also be used to help keep you cool and clean you up after a ride (assuming you don't have access to a shower).

the next step is a spray deterrent. The best I've used is something called Spray Shield: It's a citronella based spray (instead of something like mace), and work VERY well against all except very aggressive dogs (and if a dog is this aggressive, you will know it)

IF your squirt bottle and spray do not work, the only other way is physical restraint, which is not possible while riding a bike. That said however, check your local laws concerning dogs. Many place has leash laws that require dogs to be on leash or in fenced in private property. If you do have a leash law in the area you ride, and there are dogs running around causing a problem, call animal control or your LEO and report a loose dog (or group of loose dogs) which are causing a problem on [insert street name here].

This departs from the OP's topic to the point of belonging in Advocacy & Safety but I feel it should be stressed that...
If you feel the dogs you encounter pose enough of a risk that you need to carry any kind of gun (BB or otherwise) then it's time to report said dogs and owners. I found this for Tennessee dog laws (http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stustnst44_17_101_505.htm#large).
Specifically, "Ignorance of the vicious habits or character of the dog on the part of its owner shall be no defense in actions arising under § 44-17-201."

You're entitled to your opinion...I happen to disagree. Thread drift is a time honored BF tradition. Found the airhorn method of deterrence the most effective for the first few encounters. When one of the owners took a TS attitude in corraling his dog I called the authorities and reported the problem. The owner was paid a visit and THAT particular situation was dealt with to my satisfaction. I posed the question to the Sherriff as to what my rights/responsibilities were in dealing with what I considered an ongoing and dangerous situation. My daily commute consisted of passing 3 unleashed dogs bent on harrassment. His response was that I was entitled to do whatever was necessary in MY mind to defuse any confrontation w/a loose dog in whatever manner I chose once the dog reached the pavement. So, I CHOSE to get a bb pistol and train the dogs myself. Perfectly within my rights and most importantly they were trained within a week. Like I said, I don't need to carry it on my commute anymore as the dogs are sufficiantly trained NOT to pursue or harrass me.

"If you feel the dogs you encounter pose enough of a risk that you need...etc." While I appreciate the sentiment and suggestion I'm capable of making that particular determination on my own consuel, in the time of my own choosing and in the manner I decide.

You're entitled to your opinion...I happen to disagree. Thread drift is a time honored BF tradition. Found the airhorn method of deterrence the most effective for the first few encounters. When one of the owners took a TS attitude in corraling his dog I called the authorities and reported the problem. The owner was paid a visit and THAT particular situation was dealt with to my satisfaction. I posed the question to the Sherriff as to what my rights/responsibilities were in dealing with what I considered an ongoing and dangerous situation. My daily commute consisted of passing 3 unleashed dogs bent on harrassment. His response was that I was entitled to do whatever was necessary in MY mind to defuse any confrontation w/a loose dog in whatever manner I chose once the dog reached the pavement. So, I CHOSE to get a bb pistol and train the dogs myself. Perfectly within my rights and most importantly they were trained within a week. Like I said, I don't need to carry it on my commute anymore as the dogs are sufficiantly trained NOT to pursue or harrass me.

"If you feel the dogs you encounter pose enough of a risk that you need...etc." While I appreciate the sentiment and suggestion I'm capable of making that particular determination on my own consuel, in the time of my own choosing and in the manner I decide.

Fair enough. Do the 3 dogs allow bikers other than you to pass unmolested since you've "trained" them?

That said, I'd be concerned that the next dog owner would think the BB gun is a real gun despite being painted orange as you suggest and reach for his real gun too....not to mention the challenge of negotiating a gun and a moving bike. I am not that coordinated. I'm lucky to have good spelling and grammar. :D

hi I have the dog dazer 2. I initially got it because my next door neighbors keep their dog outside all day and night and the dog will start barking at any given hour for the next half hour. Repeated requests to the neighbor to have it wear a dog collar or take it inside were ignored. When it started barking at 3 in the morning, i got outside to the edge of my lawn and gave it a go...

Thanks for resurrecting this thread. I have rude neighbors that have inadvertently trained their caged dog to bark frantically for several minutes whenever one of them comes home.

Air horns are in poor taste at 3AM in my opinion. Spray bottles are bulky, leak, and might mist back in your face if the wind is right.

I just ordered a dog dazer 2. I hope it works. This seems like a better pocket sized solution to use on a bike and completely non-intrusive to other people.

Thanks for resurrecting this thread. I have rude neighbors that have inadvertently trained their caged dog to bark frantically for several minutes whenever one of them comes home.

Air horns are in poor taste at 3AM in my opinion. Spray bottles are bulky, leak, and might mist back in your face if the wind is right.

I just ordered a dog dazer 2. I hope it works. This seems like a better pocket sized solution to use on a bike and completely non-intrusive to other people.

Welcome, I was actually searching to see if other people had issues with certain dogs not hearing it and came upon this thread. Amazon.com actually has very good reviews for this product.

But definitely I've found that all dogs so far have acted differently towards it. While I was able to train the next door neighbor's dog and my friends dog, it scared the crap out of my prissy pampered grandmother's dog. I'm sick of it jumping up onto the couch getting it's hair everywhere so I 'zapped' it and it wouldn't come out from under the bed until the next morning. (Of course I had nothing to do with it and had no clue why it was visibly shaking).