Today Sono Bono starts his latest tour here in San Diego..The local radio station is playing some of their best stuff for those of us who can't attend..
My question..Midway through the 2000's , what big band adult, pop rock musician , to you reflects this era...What comes to mind, for me and my tastes....U2's Sono Bono. REM's Michael Stipe, and my wanna be list- Rob Thomas of Match Box 20...Dave Matthews band or maybe Bruce Springstein..But Springstein is sorta solo oriented, so maybe he is in a different category- plus he seems to not be doing much new?
OF my list of big name bands - who do the huge tours...I guess my vote is U2 and Sono Bono.. Any other better reflect the mood of this era.....Maybe these selections are tooo optimistic for these sour times..
Song I would like to reflect this era...'One' by U2.

I know this doesn't really fit the genre you're looking for, but for me it's almost certainly DJ Krush.

I'll say two things:

I think Brittney Spears (or you can insert any bubble gum boy/girl puppet here) reflects a society that is all about consumerism and making everything as alike as possible and easily accessible to the largest number of consumers. All the while ignoring what is going on in the "real" world.

As for a band that is looking at the state of things and responding to it? P.O.D

Honorable mention to U2 and (I know this is a little out there) Slipknot.

I guess I cannot answer this since it would be too narrow a view. I cannot stand anything 'mainstream' mentioned to this point as they are all vapid, soulless machines (or have turned into such). U2 is a giant TV commerical with tax write-offs throw in for good measure. Britney Spears - well said Crack'n'fail.

Give me Godspeed You!Black Emperor or give me death.
I guess it is all about the personal translation of things. Welcome to the ME generation. The things they will say about these times...

Funny....On the playlist of my favorite radio station, there are many,many women musicians...I like the likes of Annie Lennox, Melissa Etherridge,Tori Amos ...But, do they have the huge concerts and go on tour like U2? With huge concert halls filled...?Need not be, but often women are soulful and maybe not always in the rocker mode...
I have to have lyrics to be meaningful..Some just listen to music to rock...I have to know that the songwriter deserves his fame.....Like Bare Naked Ladies or Shaun Mullins..John Cougar Mellencamp might qualify and he is current.....But big,huge artists...Not yet would they represent this era...U2 is often really commercilized to the hilt, yet they do hit some pretty meaningful stuff ocassionally.

hmmmmmmm what's that song going through my head right now.......let me think....ah yes:

Burn down the disco
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music that they constantly play
It says nothing to me about my life
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music they constantly play......

I thought this thread was about sonny bono

:::confused:::

I'm going to agree with [165] and say Godspeed You! Black Emperor.

U2 is often really commercilized to the hilt, yet they do hit some pretty meaningful stuff ocassionally.
that's cool - variety in life and different tastes are one of the things I cherish cyclezealot - and I choose to stray FAR from the bands you have mentioned as they all talk the talk, but think that money is often all that is needed to walk the walk.

I Vote for Blonde Redhead...on God Speed You Black Emperor...I prefer later experiments Do Make Say Think is nice

Oh yeah...Radiohead definitly

Oh yeah...Radiohead definitly

Whatever happened to those guys after "Creep"?

Are they still around?

The musicicans I mentioned are often not found on above top 40 or is it top 12 playlist stations.? My station is pretty darn independent and probably has a playlist of several hundred artists...Ani DeFranco and Steve Earle is about as independent as anything I hear..But for US radio, that is pretty good.
John COugar Mellencamp plays some pretty independent , unauthorized sound...But, as much as I like artists such as say, Talking Heads, pretty much for whatever reason, can't say they will be at the Grammy's for big sellers. ? that is a part of speaking up for the current decade.

I know they're not around anymore, but it's hard to top Rage Against the Machine, forgot to mention them earlier.

Oh yeah...Radiohead definitly


i will second that x500000000000000000000


Radio head is good stuff, I think there are in the DL right now, I have no clue of any progression.

Question about thewre website... Whats up with it? there no website just a bunch of links.

No need to get into how dope Radiohead is but ...they are! They have been pumping out progressively better and better music since 93' with every album they release...I could not praise them enough...I think some listeners missed the boat when Kid A came out...too bad. Creep?....they sell out major venues every time they play!

The website right now is tweaked...subversive politcal commentary I think... interestingly arcane.

http://www.radiohead.com/qvery.php

THEY ROCK

Has anyone listened to the David Byrne/Mogwai collaboration for the film Young Adam?

No need to get into how dope Radiohead is but ...they are! They have been pumping out progressively better and better music since 93' with every album they release...I could not praise them enough...I think some listeners missed the boat when Kid A came out...too bad. Creep?....they sell out major venues every time they play!

The website right now is tweaked...subversive politcal commentary I think... interestingly arcane.

http://www.radiohead.com/qvery.php

THEY ROCK

OK, what the **** is up with that website?

I don't know...really... I figure this much Thom Yorke is a really intelligent guy as are his band mates. Fathom this: I imagine if you have paid close attention to the last 4 releases you (we) might get it...They don't dig on consumerist society in general (although happy to sell records and shiet...that is not what they are in for) simply put they like to play with the force fed fast food culture that is so pervasive these days and their good at it. But what the hell do I know. I gathered from a show I was at last summer in Mansfield, Ma; after Thom looped himself saying "thought control" over and over again, that he was referring to how modern society and corporate/political agendas are programming us all (the audience)...while I don't feel necessarily to be a victim of this I can see his point...disagree?

I totally agree, thanks alot for explaining it!

Has anyone listened to the David Byrne/Mogwai collaboration for the film Young Adam?

Yeah. Not particularly impressed (and I'm a HUGE DB fan), but I'll put it on if I'm in the mood. I think Byrne's instrumental stuff peaked with 'The Catherine Wheel'. Man, that's an awesome album, but way off-topic.

I think Brittney Spears (or you can insert any bubble gum boy/girl puppet here) reflects a society that is all about consumerism and making everything as alike as possible and easily accessible to the largest number of consumers. All the while ignoring what is going on in the "real" world.


That's probably true, but then, I can't think of that being any different for some time now. Personally I generally avoid a lot of that rubbish in anycase (thanks largely to Triple J), so it wasn't really going to influence my answer to this question.

I'd probably take a shot out of left field and say Richard Ashcroft -- largely because Alone with Everybody was one of the best CDs ever released, and it was around that time that I was also discovering the earlier work from The Verve. If you want something that has a few words to say about modern commercialism -- look no further than Scam from The Screaming Jets, which came out in 2001. It has a few less than subtle words to say on the subject.

The earlier work from Coldplay was pretty good, too.

Chris..I must have missed your escape message. Where the heck have you been..?I figured maybe moutain bike race about the perimiter of Anaractic in order to escape that horrid Queensland summer. ?Glad to see Coldplay is in Australia...Think they are English...
Did you see my question about the Ozzie group called John Butler Trio..They are just getting to the US...Have only heard one cut and think them awesome. You have heard them...? Like to know how their overall album sounds.

I'm going to agree with [165] and say Godspeed You! Black Emperor.
I'm going to have to agree with snickersnicker and say ditto. I listen to a widely varied assortment of music, but nobody's come along and just blown me away the last few years like these guys.

Who is "Sono Bono"?

Kris...You are kidding . Even main street monopolisic US radio- I think plays his hits. Bono..that is..

I have no idea. I tend to have a hard time remembering when/where artists appear on my (very) short-range radar. Still seems to me that Master Of Puppets came out yesterday.

Karldar. I know many US stations are worth crap and play nothing but the same "Kansas" recycled, rehash crap for at least 15 times a day.. sort of thought U2 's greatest hits is played everywhere. guess not. one of Bono's greatest tunes..."Who will ride your white horses" ...No , that is not played everywhere...?
Sono Bono is U2's lead singer... He went off with Bush's Secretary of Treasury on a tour of Africa two years ago..Trying to sway world leaders about starvation in Africa.
SOme wild eyed talk in the media, he might be considered for President of the World Bank, because of his charity interests...Bono wears those orange glasses and not only a rock star but a news maker.. This Bono, not the Bono of 'Sonny and Cher' fame..
Think they are of Irish origin.

I don't think it's "Sono Bono", though. I think it's just "Bono" or "Bono Vox". I have always been a HUGE U2 fan, up until their last 3 albums. No blame, as the I Ching says, though. I think every band has a "half life" so to speak, where they put out great music until they reach a point where they can't anymore. Most of my favorite artists have a point they reach where there stuff is just not very good. REM(anything "Green" and before is PHENOMINAL, after, not so good,) Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles(Wings? Ringo? The Plastic ****ing Ono Band?) You get my point. U2 was an incredible band, everything after "Zooropa", not so good.

I think for the political cause it would be Anti Flag, rage was more of the 1990's.

Motorhead got it right about society in the first track off their newest release(Inferno) called Terminal Show It basically covers how society has started to go down the crapper in the early 2000's.

Guess the kind of thing I claim..The era 55-65 was definitely Presley...67-75..Pretty much a tug between Beatles/Stones..
75-85...Was there any music....? 85-95. I like to think the biggest influences were Lauper/Cars/David Byrne.
Now, I am not sure..There is a lot of good music out there if you can get a radio station that plays anything..The only 'big'band comes to mind is U2...Guess by big band, I mean one that seems to dominate the music scene...
Getting radio stations to play something as independent as Even Tom Petty is someplaces - even a strain..Radio is so formated.So getting something popularized with that market restraint as divisive as Rage against the Machine or Radiohead is unlikely.......I understand Rage against the Machine...Government harrassment has closed down their web site with providers...........................
as to older bands not putting out great music...Stones can even wail up until their mid-50's. But no longer dominant...
Maybe the problem is lack of a 'marketing' situation..I call it censorship...So with those restraints- the only 'big band' I can think of is U2....
ps----Will Double check myself...I did look up some reviews of U2 on web sites........Seems attached to Bono, was name Sonny...maybe just used infrequently..?

75-85...Was there any music....?

You ever hear of a little thing called punk rock?

You ever hear of a little thing called punk rock?
Only thing comes to mind...75-85 is John Travolta..and he is no musician...

Only thing comes to mind...75-85 is John Travolta..and he is no musician...

You're trolling, aren't you?

You like John Travolta music...You originate from Jersey?

Hope Koffee is interested in this subject..Now trying to find a collector 45 ....A friend lived in Chicago during the middle 70's....A Chicago pop radio station created a mini riot when it recorded a 45, called..."So you want to be a Disco Duck." Steve stood in line and got a copy for me ..Somewhere around the house..(we have moved several times since then..Gotta find it.)
A Chicago anti disco rant...Love it...Caused a stir among the discoites...ANy one have a copy of "So you want to be a Disco Duck." Funny......Sure a local speciality to Chicagoians. Hello Koffee? Might we worth a couple $'s by now...

Only thing comes to mind...75-85 is John Travolta..and he is no musician...


Van Halen was pretty big around this time, IIRC. I have to admit that I don't own any Van Hagar. I like Hagar as an artist separately, but I never thought he really gelled with the band's sound. I always liked David Lee Roth's energy.

Punk rock was very influential to many artists and definitely had its place. Today I think it's just punk and lacks the raw edginess that punk rock had. Hard to be original when most of it's been done. Plus, a lot of "so-called" punk sounds like pop to me. I decided long ago that punk rock music was performed by a band that couldn't proficiently play their instruments(or didn't want to) coupled with a vocalist who couldn't sing(or didn't want to), but they appeared to be trying really hard to make music-political statements notwithstanding, of course.;)

I hate the way everything has to be sub-classified now-by the industry and media anyways. My mp3 player has over 50 genres of music to choose from. I use 3-4...and I have many different types of music. I just prefer to call it as I hear it and that's different for everyone. As far as preferences: If you like it, it's music. If you don't, it's noise. All subjective.

Chris..I must have missed your escape message. Where the heck have you been..?


I don't really have the time to post here as often as I once did, which is basically where I've been.

Did you see my question about the Ozzie group called John Butler Trio..They are just getting to the US...Have only heard one cut and think them awesome. You have heard them...? Like to know how their overall album sounds.

I've heard a few tracks on Triple J, but I haven't actually gone out and bought one of their CDs yet. They seem to be alright.

I don't really have the time to post here as often as I once did, which is basically where I've been.



I've heard a few tracks on Triple J, but I haven't actually gone out and bought one of their CDs yet. They seem to be alright.
Chris...Don't have time to post,yet you have a blue star? Hope you still riding amongst those nutty Queensland motorist...You buy a car, the world will stop spinning. they are sort of a funky, blues sound.?..Not sure what their style is....? I like it..

For me..St Germain. Chill-out for the century.

I like wilco, le tigre, fischerspooner, air, pixies, blonde redhead, shins, the smiths

not sure if this "reflects" the time period though, but stuff I enjoy

U2 is okay. Not sure if I like political stuff in music or films.

Not sure if I like political stuff in music or films.

I'm not sure about it, either, but it might be a lot more prevalent than you realize. I seem to hear what could be construed as political statements in music all the time. And I mean music that I've listened to for quite some time-it just never clicked before. Probably partially a change in perspective and partially not really comprehending some lyrics.

Kaldar..Many musicians are of the artist variety...Or consider themselves artists...art being creative...so art for centuries has something to say...That is what I expect out of music..that is a songwriters mission..
so it can say what the musician wants it to say...it is up to us to listen to or buy what we relate to....Certainly we would not want to eliminate Dylan's Blowin in the wind because it is political.
I expect music to say whatever it is I relate to at the time...Whether is be love or the state of the world..I just do not automatically eliminate because it seems controversal..I might feel at time like exploring what it is the songwriter has to say....
One song writer who exited this world before her time.- Eva Cassady..Her songs are so intensly emotional, it gives me the creeps...
But unfortunately talent does not always make it big...

yeah, I don't even mean U2 necessarily. A lot of the punk bands I used to listen to, and now even ones I listen to today -it is almost preachy. And usually their politics are so sophmoric as to be humorous.

I find this to be the case with hollywood stars especially. I probably agree with a good number of them, and what they are saying -but they sound so clueless.

I love LeTigre, and liked Bikini Kill before them, but sometimes it just gets to me -the preachy tone.

It's funny, 3-4 years ago I had the exact opposite view. If I heard a cd or watched a movie with a political message I was more likely to enjoy it. Now, as I get older, it just sounds preachy and silly.

Our moods change daily almost..Sometimes I want to be preached to, some days not...I am a blues oriented listener...For example, I think Keb Moe's recent cd called "Peace" is historic, not preachy...Well done too..Interesting backgrounds.
actually on days I might be inclined to be preached to, it is out of anger not out of a funk..so better get out and ride- before some of us wig out. But other days, the same tune might seem preachy..Maybe it is just a given rendition and our current mood.

I think the twin Radiohead albums Kid A and Amnesiac because they reflect a popular disbelief in the political powers that be and the dark soul searching that more liberal minded people have had to do since they seem to lack a focus or trajectory for their efforts.

Kaldar..Many musicians are of the artist variety...Or consider themselves artists...art being creative...so art for centuries has something to say...That is what I expect out of music..that is a songwriters mission..
so it can say what the musician wants it to say...it is up to us to listen to or buy what we relate to....Certainly we would not want to eliminate Dylan's Blowin in the wind because it is political.
I expect music to say whatever it is I relate to at the time...Whether is be love or the state of the world..I just do not automatically eliminate because it seems controversal..I might feel at time like exploring what it is the songwriter has to say....
One song writer who exited this world before her time.- Eva Cassady..Her songs are so intensly emotional, it gives me the creeps...
But unfortunately talent does not always make it big...


I definitely think that artists have a right to include their opinions(political and otherwise) in their art, unless it's a commissioned piece, maybe. I guess what really bothers me is when the artist tries to force their opinion(s) on you instead of letting you interpret their work for yourself. I don't mean interpret as a critic and tell others what the artist means - I mean an internalized, personal interpretation. Y'know, what the art means to you-what you take away from it. I think that tends to be somewhat different for everyone. I do think sometimes they hit you over the head with stuff, tho. Kind of like what Ziggurat was saying about some of them expressing sophomoric political opinions to the extent that you want to just tune it out or maybe just can't take it depending on what day it is or what mood I'm in at the time. Maybe they're trying to effect change, but that can go either way-for good or evil. Sounds like a bad movie plot, huh?

Talk about a mood change..Let's take the movie "Frida." with Selma Hayek.. I have seen some of Diego Rivera's art at the Detroit Museum..Incredible work..But a favorite movie scene is when Rivera paints the Rockefeller center with Marxist centered figures..The guy had schutzpah...We knew it would not stay, but the ride was fun....Artistic license gone astray.
Somedays, I would like to see Hayek as Frida, others I prefer her erotic snake dance in "Fron Dusk to Dawn." but there is room for both..

hmmmmmmm what's that song going through my head right now.......let me think....ah yes:

Burn down the disco
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music that they constantly play
It says nothing to me about my life
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music they constantly play......
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ

Thank you ...

Did you see my question about the Ozzie group called John Butler Trio..They are just getting to the US...Have only heard one cut and think them awesome. You have heard them...? Like to know how their overall album sounds.

I believe John Butler is actually originally from the U.S. I've got the 'Sunshine Over Sea' album. Bloody excellent. Not a bad song on it. Go get it. (http://www.johnbutlertrio.com/)