Rides and Races - Toronto Fixed

Cause they're 30km away damnit and I can't check their stock online/crappy website and/or don't have what I want and/or ridiculous prices. I don't do ALL My shopping online though.

Riiight, I keep forgetting that the Rob I know from Kensington lunches lives way the hell up north from there. Noted.

Now I know that's a lie :D

:p :roflmao:
Now I know that's a lie :D

where the frig were you tonight operator you said you were gonna come, what a n00b lawel ;)

It would've been nice if more people came out for the ride tonight, but the turn out wasn't bad on account of the rain.

Thanks again for the coke Steeker, it's always nice meeting new people.

It was a good turnout considering the thunderstuff earlier. I was feeling a bit antisocial & sick in the belly, almost didn't show but it seemed like a bunch would stay home due to rain so I went anyway. It was close to home. Shin-yum ramen for lunch w/egg didn't like me as much as I liked it, damn cheap lunch can;t be trusted

Slayer.....wow dragging their asses from the muck once again?
Stars, I kinda like a couple songs off the disk, same for Metric. Neither disk really really stands out for me.
The whole whoa is me rock thing is getting pretty tired. I guess that's what happens when one gets so ooooold. :lol: Broken Social Scene .... let me dl a few tracks.... suggestions?

I'm kinda hoping a good Canadian band with something to say comes. It's been a pretty bleak bunch of years for music when it's so hard to tell who's been percolating under the labels radar or who's the latest cookie cutter band. That is the disadvantage to being older is I'm not in the clubs anymore where one should see these bands when they are small time. Big shows bite. I saw Nirvana with 400 people in a club three months before Smells Like.... broke them out.. amaaaaaaazing show.

Grab the first few tracks off of You Forgot it in People (2002):

01. Capture the Flag
02. KC Accidental
03. Stars and Sons

We should do a list of of top-ten albums each and go on a music exchange frenzy, or take over the "what are you listening to?" thread in the main forum. I actually enjoy getting peoples' opinions on new music (even though I'm just a tad belligerant sometimes).

Edit: maybe not top-ten albums, because that becomes too complicated ... just a list of some albums you've been listening to lately that are worth hearing.

eeeeeeeeeexcellent.. http://www.punknews.org/article/17568

:D

Slayer. Dig it.

have you ever been to a concert by yourself? haha.

Many times!

Slayer sounds like fun but I honestly don't think I'd have the will to survive the pit (unlike Tool or NIN where I would actively go out and kill people as should be done).

Dude.. it's a bunch of 30-somethings with beer bellies in tight black jeans. The pit is non-existant!

Slayer.....wow dragging their asses from the muck once again?

With their original lineup! Also, if you're a metal fan, do yourself a favor and check out Mastodon's latest album. Totally amazing. And then come to the show and see both live! :)

40-something ...

i've done the Toronto Niagara Toronto "Hairshirt" ride for the last couple of years. i may have a route sheet somewhere, i'll try to dig it up. the route itself is pretty flat, especially if you take a route that follows the lake. the TNT route typically goes north past hamilton through to welland then on to niagara falls then through niagara on the lake, vineland, st catherines, port dalhousie and through stony creek into hamilton, cambridge and oakville on the way back to toronto. the routes that follow the lake are more direct, and often feature a breeze off the lake which is nice on a hot day, but generally have more traffic. routes through welland, etc are more rural, less traffic, but you don't get that nice view of the lake, wine country etc. and can get hot suring peak summer months. look at the TBN site for their write up on the TNT ride; they also do a niagara ride over two days that might have some information for you.

It took googling 'Hairshirt ride' to figure out that you meant Toronto Bicycle Network. Doh. Unfortunately they don't seem to have any maps available on their site (or maybe I'm just missing them). At any rate, this inland route sounds good, though I wonder about road conditions out in the boondocks. Okay for me, but the hubby is picky. Can't believe I've managed to convince him to consider the ride at all. ("What? a 6 hour ride without a support vehicle?!?")


Do I see a hotel with a heart shaped bed in yer future Mags?

lmao. I'm almost cheesy enough to consider it, but not on my salary. Plus we've been married too long for that crap.


Here's the route i took, BAH way to crash google maps API, you suck. Anyways it's basically like Jeremy said. Lakeshore rd all the way to Hamilton and a bit past it, then North service road all the way east until you hit St. Catharines. After that I have no idea as I stopped in teh hick town.

Road condition wise. Lakeshore is alright. North service road is also fine. Lakeshore gets narrow going from kipling to Hamilton, 2 lane road only so you may want to detour north or something, I wanted a direct route so no go with that.

Also the stretch of north service road can also be replaced by climbing the escarpment to the south and then doing some funky stuff with the roads in there - I didn't do that because I needed a direct route.

Also that 60km stretch to niagara falls once you turn east on south shore of Lake O. is the most boring piece of **** you'll ever see. Ride profile is that it's all flat, and you'll be eating wind either on the way to Hamilton or on the way to Niagara. Depending on which direction (T.O -> Hamilton = 90km, Hamilton -> Niagara = 50-70km), you'll suffer, or not.

North service road has a giant wall on the south edge but otherwise it's open, meaning wind in your facez0r.

Hmm, good info there...looks like that won't be the route we'll take. I'd rather have hilly and less windy than windy and less hilly.

Thanks guys :)

40-something ...
Then it's no pit at all, for fear of wrecking knees and backs and/or losing:
glasses
cell phones
pagers
blackberries
:lol:

Then it's no pit at all, for fear of wrecking knees and backs and/or losing:
glasses
cell phones
pagers
blackberries
:lol:

hahah.. totally.


ps. to all the trackies: I just emailed Eddy (the guy who runs the Saturday Track 1 sessions) about our group coming out on June 10. I asked him about whether it would be possible for us to use the track later in the day since there aren't any races scheduled. I'll keep y'alls posted.

Unfortunately they don't seem to have any maps available on their site (or maybe I'm just missing them)

They don't give out ride maps like that. You have to be a member.

It's so boring i'm reading useless articles like this: http://news.com.com/Beware+of+broadband+speed+overkill/2100-1034_3-6073081.html?tag=nefd.pulse Weather why hath you forsaken me?!??


where the frig were you tonight operator you said you were gonna come, what a n00b lawel

Lawl, riding down 25ks of Yonge st. in rush hour traffic in thunderstorm = not good. :P


I'd rather have hilly and less windy than windy and less hilly.

Yeah I wanted to rip my eyes out, one big long stretch of road going off into infinity as far as you could see. Lamez0r. That and I was riding solo so it was even more boring :/

Jeremy if you're going to scan that map blast over a copy for me as well please. Or gmaps -> save route it.

My bar setup is going to look like this soon: except the bullhorns aren't wing (I need 4 bolt quill stem do they have those?) And those exact levers, w00t.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/reciprocity/7695.jpg

H0tlink FTW.

Then it's no pit at all, for fear of wrecking knees and backs and/or losing:
glasses
cell phones
pagers
blackberries
:lol:
walkers and canes? wait a minute....I am almost 40. I can still hold my own in the pit. Nothing like experience i suppose.;)

My bar setup is going to look like this soon: except the bullhorns aren't wing (I need 4 bolt quill stem do they have those?) And those exact levers, w00t.

http://www.velonews.com/images/report/7695.10450.f.jpg

H0tlink FTW.
If you don't mind an extra ounce or two consider going with a quill stem adapter, lets you use an ahead stem with threaded forks. Any quill stem with 4/2 bolt will likely be crappy quality.

My work has no showers or changerooms. I have just been changing in the basement next to where you lock up the bikes. Boy am I glad I didn't bike home in my brand new Sean John blazer! I'm freaking soaked! Its gonna really suck if its storming on the way to work because when I get there I just put on pants and a shirt over my undies and t-shirt. Spending all day in an office with soggy drawers ain't fun.

edit: Wes, je réponds à votre invitiation pour m'occuper de la clinique de piste sur le dixième juin.\\

also, we will see at the last minute if I'm up for the ride of silence.

just get some baby-wipes from shoppers drug mart and keep them in your desk. it's a quick and dirty fix and has worked for me for five years. can you change in the bathroom?

Oh man I am sooooo lucky to be where I am in terms of facilities. I even park in the pass accessed basement parking with the executives. My bike is nice and dry too. I think all companies should make some form of showering available to bike commuters. Either that of the building itself should include facilities and charge a slice of the rent to maintain them. As it is I pay 20 bucks a month, for the gym access (27-7), the change and showers.

Shiz...many other riders at the building? How long before you're caught with one foot in as it were?
Operator......avoid it as long as possible. Unless it's for spending money, for bikes, toys, or road trips.
nnnn nnn nnnn nnnn 19 (vague musical reference)

i think even if there was a shower here i probably wouldn't use it as it would just be a pain to bring toiletries to work. but then again, i'm smelling myself right now and i smell like a cab driver in a heat wave. i'm telling you, polyester jerseys stink! why didn't i wear my woolens?

ipods... new gen. MD's are coming out though! yay.
that calls for a trip to hong kong.

i am so out of the loop. i'm hanging on to my film camera and CD walkman. what the h-e double hockey sticks is an MD?

i think even if there was a shower here i probably wouldn't use it as it would just be a pain to bring toiletries to work. but then again, i'm smelling myself right now and i smell like a cab driver in a heat wave. i'm telling you, polyester jerseys stink! why didn't i wear my woolens?

I just take it easy on the way to work and try not to stank myself up. I always commute in my regular clothes. My goretex jacket tends to get stinky pretty easily though too.

Speaking of wool jerseys... who was it that mentioned a cheap place in Kensington? Does anyone have any more specific details about that? All those shops look the same to me. :)

i am so out of the loop. i'm hanging on to my film camera and CD walkman. what the h-e double hockey sticks is an MD?

minidisc, I assume.

i am so out of the loop. i'm hanging on to my film camera and CD walkman. what the h-e double hockey sticks is an MD?

Rofl. You know in matrix 1 where Neo is selling some "h4x0r s0ftware" to some guy for 2k bucks? When he goes to pick it up from this hollowed out book, they're on data mds (horriblely small data capacity nowadays) but it looked cool as heck back then.

Or maybe just a picture. That's like 1/3 diameter of a regular cd encased in plastic.

http://www.lichtensteiger.de/Images/md_disc.jpg

A has been format, was very popular in Japan never really made it in North America.
God I hate being the last post on a page.

We should do a list of of top-ten albums each and go on a music exchange frenzy, or take over the "what are you listening to?" thread in the main forum. I actually enjoy getting peoples' opinions on new music (even though I'm just a tad belligerant sometimes).

Edit: maybe not top-ten albums, because that becomes too complicated ... just a list of some albums you've been listening to lately that are worth hearing.
I will get the list started. In no particular order.
1. Supersuckers. ************* Be Tripping. Good Ole Rock and Roll.
2. Fu Manchu. Start the Machine. Solid Rock/Metal
3. Anything by Hayseed Dixie. Country versions of AC/DC covers. Awesome.
4. King Conqueror. Fist Magnet. Punk/Ska from Halifax. The singer rides a fixie.
5. Megadeth. Peace Sells But Who's Buying. Mustaine rocks.
6. Outkast. Speakerboxx/Love Below. Good hip-hop thats all over the board.
7. Rick James. Gold. disc 1 and 2. Cause he's Rick James *****!
8. Suicidal Tendencies. Join the Army. What happened to Cyco Mike anyway?
9. Zero 7. Simple Things. Great chillout record.
10. Dr Dre. The Chronic. Still my favorite hip-hop/rap artist.

It took googling 'Hairshirt ride' to figure out that you meant Toronto Bicycle Network. Doh. Unfortunately they don't seem to have any maps available on their site (or maybe I'm just missing them). At any rate, this inland route sounds good, though I wonder about road conditions out in the boondocks. Okay for me, but the hubby is picky. Can't believe I've managed to convince him to consider the ride at all. ("What? a 6 hour ride without a support vehicle?!?")



lmao. I'm almost cheesy enough to consider it, but not on my salary. Plus we've been married too long for that crap.



Hmm, good info there...looks like that won't be the route we'll take. I'd rather have hilly and less windy than windy and less hilly.

Thanks guys :)

if you want a copy of the route, email Owen Rogers at the TBN. He is the organiser of the hairshirt and he usually has paper copies available. as for road conditions, i can't remember them being anything out of the ordinary. you get the odd beat-up country road out in the sticks but for the most part its smooth going. you can't have fresh pavement the whole way no matter where you go. as for your comment about lack of support, i wouldn't worry too much as there are facilities just about everywhere along the route for food/water/washrooms. there are some stretches of 20km or where there is nothing (on the way to welland port and from welland to niagara falls) but you're never too far from what you need.

if you want a copy of the route, email Owen Rogers at the TBN

AKA Admin. Who's doing the Toronto Niagara Toronto this year (hair**** n00bified)?

Op - Salsa makes a quill stem with a removable face plate.

http://www.salsacycles.com/components/images/stems_Cromo2.jpg

AKA Admin. Who's doing the Toronto Niagara Toronto this year (hair**** n00bified)?

well i want to but i'm not in any kind of shape; i usually have a century or two and a 200km brevet under my belt by this time. i haven't done any kind of long distance riding this year. i suppose if a group was interested in doing it i'd go and just try to ride tempo and survive.

Oh. 200km brevet? Nuts! I was riding back last year and these guys were just flying, 40kph. They motioned for me to jump on the back and I did. Asked them a bit later what was happening and they said they were just finishing up a double metric.

o_0

Oh. 200km brevet? Nuts! I was riding back last year and these guys were just flying, 40kph. They motioned for me to jump on the back and I did. Asked them a bit later what was happening and they said they were just finishing up a double metric.

o_0

i guess they were randonneurs? there's some fast guys in that club, 200s in under 8 hours. i usually finish in about 10.

alright, i haven't bought an album in a while but some favs are:

1. yo la tengo - and then nothing turned itself inside out
2. belle and sebastian - boy with the arab strap
3. godspeed you black emporer - lift your skinny fists like antentae to heaven
4. tom waits - mule variations
5. tom waits - nighthawks at the diner
6. jimmy smith - the sermon
7. the hidden cameras - (can't remember the name of the album)
8. modest mouse - the lonesome crowded west
9. k-os - exit
10. anything with miles davis, especially when he was in his drug-induced experimental phase.

Any comments on this

http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_fr074.jpg

58/60cm. AL red/blue.
40USD.

Any comments on this

http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_fr074.jpg

58/60cm. AL red/blue.
40USD.

looks like a 7005 taiwanese aluminum job. but geez for $40US? does it come with the fork? depending on shipping costs, it could be a deal. i'm tempted to pick one up for that price.

is this top 10 albums of all time? or just top 10 recently? because those could be fairly different lists. :)

cavernmech: you going to Gigantour this summer to see Megadeth? I went last year on my bday. :D I don't think they've announced the lineup for this year yet. awesome list, btw. :)

jeremey: dah.. why the heck won't godspeed tour again?! I saw them a few years ago and I've been desperate to see them again ever since.

No, fork is like $30 extra. Here's the page, they have lots of goodies. I emailed them about how much/and what shipper they use to Canada but they haven't responded yet (site says they're closed till the 29th).

www.chucksbikes.com

They're supposedly reputable from other bf'ers posts.

Here are some recent fav's, in no particular order:

1) Isis - can't get enough of their entire discography right now
2) Propaghandi - I'd Rather Be Flag Burning
3) Fugazi - The Argument
4) Mogwai - Mogwai EP
5) Buck 65 - Talkin ***** Blues
6) Death By Stereo - Death For Life
7) Pixies - Trompe Le Monde
8) Killing The Dream - In Place Apart
9) Converge - Jane Doe
10) Autechre - Amber

This is a good guage of my music as well, although it often doesn't update my ipod listening habits properly (it keeps missing things.. I *know* I've listened to Isis a lot more than it's reporting): http://www.last.fm/user/somnambulant/

jeremey: dah.. why the heck won't godspeed tour again?! I saw them a few years ago and I've been desperate to see them again ever since.

My list was sort of an all time favourites but really an inventory of CD on my desk at work.

yeah, i saw GSYBE a few years ago at the opera house (2001 i think). such a quiet show but really different from the norm; that's why i like them.

ok so in no particular order

1. bad brains / bad brains ..best album in the known universe
2. hum / you'd prefer an astronaut
3. the cure / mixed up ..damn, it's grade 7 again.
4. tool / 10000 days
5. anything from studio one / 100%-400% dynamite ..all reggae and ska
6. epmd / business never personal ..keep it old school boyeeee
7. run dmc / raising hell
8. minor threat / minor threat
9. pixies / bossanova or doolittle ..flip a coin
10. brahman / a forlorn hope ..japanese punk

got soaked riding in this morning.. should've brought a change of clothes.. or at least another pair of socks. clean, dry socks make all the difference in the world. i think we've got 4 decades representin' in this thread. amazing. :)

hmmm

Bad Brains - Attitude - The ROIR sessions
Midnight Oil... 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
The Clash - London Calling
Madness - One Step Beyond (name of album?)
The Undertones- The Undertones
Nirvana - Nevermind
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Thelonius Monk
J. Cash. American IV - the last studio album before he died.
Billy Bragg - Billy Bragg

I can't just do ten...OMG tooooo much music and I haven't even gotten to classical composers, rap or my island mus-ic.

hmmm

Bad Brains - Attitude - The ROIR sessions
Midnight Oil... 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
The Clash - London Calling
Madness - One Step Beyond (name of album?)
The Undertones- The Undertones
Nirvana - Nevermind
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Thelonius Monk
J. Cash. American IV - the last studio album before he died.
Billy Bragg - Billy Bragg

I can't just do ten...OMG tooooo much music and I haven't even gotten to classical composers, rap or my island mus-ic.
Yeah...that Johnny Cash record is fantastic. You can kind if feel in his singing he was going to pass away shortly there after. His version of "Hurt" is particularly good.

Yea you totally knew he was passing the torch as it were, you can feel it in his voice. One of the most powerful albums I've ever listened to ever. Even to the track listing. It is his swan song but it's like he literally died on the recording, he put everything into it as he KNEW it was his last. RIP

Cascada - Everytime we touch
4 Strings - Believe
Angel City - Love me right
Evanescence - The Fallen
Radiohead - Ok Computer
Linkin Park - The Theory

FLAC ftw.

www.chucksbikes.com

They're supposedly reputable from other bf'ers posts.

I've ordered from them a few times. Good prices. I had them ship USPS and the cost was always reasonable (a frame may be worse though).

No, fork is like $30 extra. Here's the page, they have lots of goodies. I emailed them about how much/and what shipper they use to Canada but they haven't responded yet (site says they're closed till the 29th).

www.chucksbikes.com

They're supposedly reputable from other bf'ers posts.

hey op, about ordering online. even if shipping is cheap, you should figure in any possible duties/taxes and tack that on. also weigh that against going to a local shop and getting it right away so you can ride right away. i mean, you can't really put a dollar value on being able to slap it on and ride! i understand your point about being far from stores and being able to check out stuff online though.. BUT, you're downtown quite a lot, so why not pick up stuff when it's convenient?

In random order.Not all time just what i'm listening to now
1.le tigre - this island
2.the gossip - standing in the way
3.the von bodies - pawn shop heart
4.the lawrence arms oh calcutta
5.alkaline trio - all
6.dwarves - dwarves must die
7.les georges leningrad -sur les traces
8.the suicide machines - war profiteering
9.screeching weasel - all
10.felix the housecat - devin dazzle & the

a short list
Cheers

Yeah, I don't really have any interest in building up that specific frame above, just purely a get it because it's cheap type thing :D You know in case I break my frame mid ride and need to swap it out.

The big problem i've found mainly is that none of the shops really carry exactly what I want (read: obscure) and when they do it's a special order (might as well order it myself) and not necessarily cheaper than I can order it even after tax/handling/duty (if any).

I hate calling around every shop and asking if they carry this that blah blah and 90% of the time they come back and go sorry don't have. :(

For example no one has these: http://www.profile-design.com/2006_product_pages/images/quickstop.jpg

For example no one has these: http://www.profile-design.com/2006_product_pages/images/quickstop.jpg

have you tried racer sportif or silent sports. both those shops carry tri stuf...

have you tried racer sportif or silent sports. both those shops carry tri stuf...
Or Endurosport.....they are even in yer neck o the woods I think.

Any comments on this

http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_fr074.jpg

58/60cm. AL red/blue.
40USD.
For real ? $40 for a frame how Hot are they?