Rides and Races - Toronto Fixed

I had a look at the UCI Continental calendar, and there are more options for you:
April 18th Scheldeprijs Vlaanderen, rated 1.HC by the UCI (that's the highest ranking a race can get) in BEL
April 21 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, also in BEL is rated 1.Ncup (not sure what that is), is actually the oldest one-day race ever.

Check out the last paragraph or so on phill wood hubs here:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/sealed-bearings.html

So in a nutshell Jobstd says: phil wood are teh suxx0rz.

Check out the last paragraph or so on phill wood hubs here:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/sealed-bearings.html

So in a nutshell Jobstd says: phil wood are teh suxx0rz.

I have Shimano 105 hubs on one of my road bikes and they've had to be re-packed once in 12 years, so I can agree with what is said here but I wonder if Phil has had any changes to their hubs since the article was written, over 9 years ago? I've always wondered why Phils were so damned expensive as well, is it really just hype? Who here runs Phils?

As of this writing (Nov 98) both Campagnolo and Shimano have stuck with cup-and-cone bearings for their hubs, while most third parties are manufacturing cartridge bearings, probably because cartridges are much easier to manufacture than cup or cone races.

Right now Shimano makes the best inexpensive hubs: they are sealed correctly (double contact or contact/labyrinth), are fairly durable, and are quite serviceable. Hubs such as Phil Wood's are much more expensive, but may be better in some respects.

If you read the entire article, you will find that he knocks cartridge bearings.
Why? because they aren't as easily servicable.

Sealed as well as cup and cone are never necessarily waterproof anyway.

I'd still stick with a cartridge BB it's just so much easier to deal with.

Wheel bearings I could go either way. It really depends on the cartridge bearing seal, teflon, whatever..

Everything is application specific.

Yeah, I like cartridge for a BB because my steelies all have cutaways in the BB shell so they can get pretty gnarly. However, I have one bike that has an old Shimano 600 open bearing cartridge in there with one of those plastic sleeves and it has been incredible for the last few years. Smooth as butter and I ride it year round too. Weird.

I've got one Shimano 600 crank because the non drive side's pedal threads got bruxed...

Anyone got a matching 170? :)

MMM oldschool ultegra

I think op might be biased though as he prefers threaded headsets. And the fact that Brandt didn't even come close to knocking phil woods, in fact I kind of read it as a compliment. any 'teh suxx0rz' sentiment is all op.

I have never had any problem at all with any kind of cartridge bearing. I have had alot of trouble with cup and cone bearings. In my experience cup and cone bearings can be made to run very smoothly, but cartidge bearings always roll smoothly. The difference is that I have to fiddle with the locknuts for ten minutes before I get cup and cone bearings dialed in properly. If a cup and cone bearing gets too tight you can ruin the whole component, on a cartridge bearing hub you just replace the cartridge once it wears out. Plus you can buy higher quality cartridge bearings than you could ever hope to find in loose format.

Senstionalist write ups create controversy and extended discussion.

Don't forget the more you ride the smoother they should get as long as they don't get mashed, pitted, flattened. I have skateboard bearings (ball in sealed cartridge) older than op, that will spin til I get tired of holding the darned thing.

The only skateboarding lingo I remember from back in the day was that 'Swedish bearings' were 'the sh*t'. I always prefered Swedish Berries myself...

I personally enjoy grease drag myself.... bearings don't have to spin forever.. they just gotta be smoooth..

well the perma-spin is a by-product because you don't grease 'em ever.
Bike-wise though it's like that butta smooth Campy Hub off your grand-fathers' bike.

We have reached the age of jumbo jets!

My grandfather's bike was made in China...

if you know anything about "chinese grade bearings" then you'll know they aren't butter smooth.

More like "they just work"

Eventually the cubic bearings get ground down into roughly sperical shapes by the pummice stone bearing races.

One of my grand pappies got a gammy leg from a motorcycle accident when he was young so he never had a bicycle. My other grandfather was born in the 19th century around the time bikes were invented, but he was too rich to bother riding bikes. They both died a long time ago and neither had a cool old bike. One had a rusting and mildewy jaguar in the garage though!

Eventually the cubic bearings get ground down into roughly sperical shapes by the pummice stone bearing races.

Rofl. That reminds me - drilling square holes with a rotating bit.
http://upper.us.edu/faculty/smith/reuleaux.htm

Rofl. That reminds me - drilling square holes with a rotating bit.
http://upper.us.edu/faculty/smith/reuleaux.htm

Looks like the same concept behind rotary engines.

I was just about to say the same thing.. COOOOOOOL

*melts his brain trying to follow the math*

the only bike i remember was a folding raleigh three speed. my grandmother had the matching ladies version.

Rofl. That reminds me - drilling square holes with a rotating bit.
http://upper.us.edu/faculty/smith/reuleaux.htm
Neat idea, but real world alert: it's not gonna happen.

Send it out for EDM or waterjet or lasercut, or even better... don't design for square holes!

I'd just use a router and a square file...

finally, a hole I can peg

You'd have a hard time with a router on steel!

When I was a wee laddie in high school we had a machine in the wood shop that was essentially a drill contained within 4 chisel heads arranged around it. You could make square holes with that, but only one size!

Get the laser.....

"laser"

ps. I might go for a ride on Saturday morning if the weather cooperates. Thinking about taking the subway to the "city limits" (as if this sprawl we call the GTA ever stops) for a proper ride, but that's sort of up in the air at this point.

technically its always LASER as its an acronym.

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technically its always LASER as its an acronym.

I was making a dr. evil reference, professor. :)

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I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.
you might want to get that cough checked out before critical mass on friday.

Looks like this friday is gonna be the "cold" CM for the year :)

"laser"

ps. I might go for a ride on Saturday morning if the weather cooperates. Thinking about taking the subway to the "city limits" (as if this sprawl we call the GTA ever stops) for a proper ride, but that's sort of up in the air at this point.

As a 15 hour/week TTC and YRT veteran I can tell you that the subway goes exactly halfway to the edge of the city.

Looks like this friday is gonna be the "cold" CM for the year :)

I think the november CM tops all for worst weather CM...

Soggy wet and cold cold cold.

At least it will be dry.

technically its always LASER as its an acronym.

no

Yeah hard to believe the haloween turnout and the new years turnout was about equal!

Way to jinx it though :p

no

Heh, yes, and let me drop some grammar knowledge on you for that incredibly dimwitted remark.

First I stated technically, so while in common usage things like SCUBA are often rendered into scuba and LCD is often followed by a redundant usage of display according major style guides (MLA,NYT,CBC,AP) they must be rendered with capitols. The BBC style guide drops the necessity for a full period after each letter though however some still retain that usage (MLA). The only one in North America that is exempt, usually is UNICEF though Canadian media outlets tend to still refer to it in all caps. The NYT tends to refer to is as Unicef. Most people don't even know that SCUBA or LASER are acronyms, they have become accepted words in their own right. That does not change their initial meanings nor the stylistic rules that govern acronyms. Oh and when technical terms (IE SCUBA) enter common usage where the original full meaning is lost they are referred to as anacronyms. A combination of anachronism and acronym and acronym's are not an english language invention infact ancient Hebrew is full of them.

I'm always blown away by the ignorance of my Canadian educated peers, its like most people my age never took technical grammar.

I'm not saying in day to day life that it matters, in the lives of people who write for a living things like this make a difference. Plus more most of us its our first language and I always took pride in knowing how it works.

E S L

Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. didn't even have to look it up.
Offhoff I'll have to agree with you there, generalized education of the masses in north america, um ..... blows when compared to the rest of the world. Then they sit back and wonder why they start to lose when the markets are all opened up.

As for media types the Style guide is usually buried in their bottom drawer.

N O S N J S FTW :lol:

Nerdy comment I can't help but make: I love "recursive acronyms". Like PHP ("PHP Hypertext Preprocessor"), GNU ("GNU's Not Unix") and (for a non-technical, common example) VISA ("Visa International Service Association").

Now back to your regularly scheduled bike talk.

ps. damn you guys are such troll-bait. :P

Then they sit back and wonder why they start to lose when the markets are all opened up.

That and they're cutting square holes with LASERs when cutting a slot with an endmill would do just as well :p

Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. didn't even have to look it up.
Offhoff I'll have to agree with you there, generalized education of the masses in north america, um ..... blows when compared to the rest of the world. Then they sit back and wonder why they start to lose when the markets are all opened up.

As for media types the Style guide is usually buried in their bottom drawer.
UTILIZEZ LA SUBJONCTIF!

Thats about my extent of technical grammar. I am very good at speaking english and I have impeccable grammar, but I couldn't tell you the rules of grammar. Its like asking Michael Schumacher to repair the race cars he drives. anyways, me liking scuba more bigger from long time. So there.

I like the way Indian people in UAE speak english "I am wanting for you to have a very nice day!" "Why thank you!!!"

as for cutting a square hole I leave it up to Chip Foose

UTILIZEZ LA SUBJONCTIF!

Thats about my extent of technical grammar. I am very good at speaking english and I have impeccable grammar, but I couldn't tell you the rules of grammar. Its like asking Michael Schumacher to repair the race cars he drives. anyways, me liking scuba more bigger from long time. So there.

I like the way Indian people in UAE speak english "I am wanting for you to have a very nice day!" "Why thank you!!!"

Try the Hinglish in India. Took me forever to teach the call center workers 'proper' english.

As for spelling/grammer in Ontario it's getting worse. Thank the Ontario gov't for that. Teachers can no longer deduct marks for grammer and spelling on work. For that matter, although there are ways around it, I can't deduct marks for late assignments. If it's due in October and I get it in June I'm still supposed to give it the mark it would have received in Oct.

Lol Offhoff. Calm down. It was a joke. I know exactly what LASER stands for. I do find it comical that you're trying to boast about your writing skills and slag off immigrants in the same post.

I am extremely impressed that you can recite things and use encyclopedia as well. While at the same time offering no original thoughts on the topic at hand.

Try the Hinglish in India. Took me forever to teach the call center workers 'proper' english.

As for spelling/grammer in Ontario it's getting worse. Thank the Ontario gov't for that. Teachers can no longer deduct marks for grammer and spelling on work. For that matter, although there are ways around it, I can't deduct marks for late assignments. If it's due in October and I get it in June I'm still supposed to give it the mark it would have received in Oct.

What? Thats news to me! I always had marks taken off for spelling and grammar up to my last year in university really. By my last year I simply wasn't making spelling and grammatical errors in work, and the teachers didn't care if I got it in a month late (Thank god for that, I'm terrible at getting work in on time). In your line of teaching thats going to be a really stale cake though!

PS. Op and Offhoff. Clearly the only way to settle this is a street luge competition, but Offhoff has to use cartidge bearings because they suck so much he'll have a huge handicap.

touche

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Hey, where does the CM start off at? I am a newb to this sort of thing.

Bloor
Spadina
Giant marble dominoes


Be there or be crushed by one of giant marble dominoes

my favourite (ie. frustrates me the most) redundant acronym is when people ask for your 'PIN number'. Argh!

PS. I concur. The hebrew language has acronyms all over the place. That's part of the reason it's such a rich language.