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operator
01-25-08, 03:39 PM
My last PBK order hit me with some fees. I think it was a total of $15 on a $70 order. It wasn't too bad, and was still a good deal, but it was a bit annoying. I've found if you can make a bunch of small orders from PBK and just use the free shipping deal.
Sounds like $5 + Tax... ? Or is that $15 seperate of that?
USPS is the only way to receive stuff. UPS/Fedex will result in ana secks. I'm surprised no one has jumped on that Bianchi frame, $175 but it does look like there's some rust everywhere
I'm finally fixed! The ENO went into my Giant frame with a perfect chainline. I'm a little sketched out by the inability to coast when I would normaly; i.e.: adjusting my chrome bag. Also, I have to get used to positioning my left crank such that I can push off from a stop, but this is fun!
P.S.: riding fixed immediately made me realize how bad/unaware/inconsiderate most people are on the road.
P.S.S.: Hi Wes! Hope you don't get too much of teh secks from UPS!
operator
01-25-08, 06:18 PM
I have to get used to positioning my left crank such that I can push off from a stop, but this is fun!
Engage front brake, rotate crank, clip in - win! I usually don't even bother doing that, instead just roll forward and clip in on the roll.
somnambulant
01-26-08, 07:06 AM
I usually just sort of lift my left foot up (which is attached to my pedal)... that lifts the whole bike up a bit and the crank rotates around and I just drop it when it's hot... err.. in position.
edit: ups is closed on the weekends, I guess I should have predicted that, huh?
Hey anybody knows where to get a tool to remove the dust cap on MKS pedals (GR-9: 2 small holes diametrically opposed)? They could use a overhaul. I guess urbane or curbside (who carry MKS pedals) have it...
DrBenway
01-26-08, 08:21 AM
I've always wondered how that would look in person.. that's their "biggest single-panel plasma on earth", right?
until earlier this month when they announced the 150" model.
True. And for reference, the viewable area on this screen is 7'x5'. The 150" is 11'x7'. :o
I may go out in June when it comes in. :D
I'm finally fixed! The ENO went into my Giant frame with a perfect chainline. I'm a little sketched out by the inability to coast when I would normaly; i.e.: adjusting my chrome bag. Also, I have to get used to positioning my left crank such that I can push off from a stop, but this is fun!
P.S.: riding fixed immediately made me realize how bad/unaware/inconsiderate most people are on the road.
P.S.S.: Hi Wes! Hope you don't get too much of teh secks from UPS!
Amen. The two most enlightening moments in cycling for me were riding fixed the first time and riding track the first time. Both such humbling and sobering moments. And I'm hoping that like learning fixed once you get used to the technical bits, you just zen out and feel your way forward.
Happy Saturday everyone! Anyone rolling today? I've got a appt's at 11 and 1 but am around after.
somnambulant
01-26-08, 08:33 AM
Happy Saturday everyone! Anyone rolling today? I've got a appt's at 11 and 1 but am around after.
I'm gonna be heading out to the Beaches Cycle Solutions at some point.
LordFoo
01-26-08, 09:01 AM
Hey anybody knows where to get a tool to remove the dust cap on MKS pedals (GR-9: 2 small holes diametrically opposed)? They could use a overhaul. I guess urbane or curbside (who carry MKS pedals) have it...
I'm not familiar with that pedal, but I'd guess a pin spanner might fit if it's threaded.. or just pry it out gently if it's a press fit.
operator
01-26-08, 09:16 AM
Dura ace track hubs - 28h, does Shimano say they are good to go for radial lacing? Shimano lists several hubs that are compatible with radial but they don't mention any track stuff.
somnambulant
01-26-08, 10:16 AM
Hey anybody knows where to get a tool to remove the dust cap on MKS pedals (GR-9: 2 small holes diametrically opposed)? They could use a overhaul. I guess urbane or curbside (who carry MKS pedals) have it...
bent paper clip? :)
pyze-guy
01-26-08, 10:29 AM
True. And for reference, the viewable area on this screen is 7'x5'. The 150" is 11'x7'. :o
I may go out in June when it comes in. :D
Amen. The two most enlightening moments in cycling for me were riding fixed the first time and riding track the first time. Both such humbling and sobering moments. And I'm hoping that like learning fixed once you get used to the technical bits, you just zen out and feel your way forward.
Happy Saturday everyone! Anyone rolling today? I've got a appt's at 11 and 1 but am around after.
Not for me today, just came home from spinning class at the gym. Discovered I'm a masher through and through.
Note to self: when slowing down on bike at gym, skipping is not advisable.
somnambulant
01-26-08, 10:31 AM
My trainer workout this morning started with a 30' warmup.. zone2 heart rate.. 100+ rpm. That's harder than it sounds. Mostly because you have to go into a pretty easy gear to stay in zone2, and spinning 100+rpm in an easy gear == deadspot city. :P I guess that was the point.
jet sanchEz
01-26-08, 10:34 AM
Dura ace track hubs - 28h, does Shimano say they are good to go for radial lacing? Shimano lists several hubs that are compatible with radial but they don't mention any track stuff.
If I recall correctly, Shimano will not cover any issues under warranty if their Dura Ace hubs are radially laced. There must be a thread on that in the main forum but I think the search is still down.
operator
01-26-08, 10:50 AM
If I recall correctly, Shimano will not cover any issues under warranty if their Dura Ace hubs are radially laced. There must be a thread on that in the main forum but I think the search is still down.
The shimano docs says that these are covered for radial, but no others:
HB-7800 / HB-6500-A
HB-5501-A
HB-7700 (24,18,16,12)
HB-6500 (18)
I've omitted the MTB hubs. But i'm not sure if they have an updated document that includes newer models or lwkjfa;d blah.
Searching shimano for stuff is like needle in a haystack. I might just say F it and pick up one of these that are desinged for radial.
http://www.totalcycling.com/images/large/19146_175142.jpg
Very expensive though, but very good.
jet sanchEz
01-26-08, 11:06 AM
I really wonder about radial on the streets of Toronto, you don't think they might be too delicate? I am pretty big though, so I know I could never get away with it but then again, I am riding 28h Miches and haven't had a problem......yet.
TRaffic Jammer
01-26-08, 11:25 AM
Rob you were talking 16/20 f/b right?
You weigh like 130-140 soaking wet?
I've got that funky radial on the non-drive side of my rear wheel, I'll be getting it relaced to 2 or 3x. I've got a couple spokes that insist on coming loose. I like the clean look of the radial but man the roads around here.
Danhalen
01-26-08, 11:27 AM
Hey anybody knows where to get a tool to remove the dust cap on MKS pedals (GR-9: 2 small holes diametrically opposed)? They could use a overhaul. I guess urbane or curbside (who carry MKS pedals) have it...
I would recommend going to see Malcolm at Biseagal and getting him to drill a little hole in your dustcaps. Then you can periodically grease inject them with a grease gun (a bit more often this time of year because of all the muck). Then you'll basically never have to repack them. It saves you a lot of time/effort/trouble. He did that for me and it was totally worthwhile.
Flimflam
01-26-08, 11:43 AM
Missed CM, didn't get going out of the east end until 6:20, so no hope of making it. No riding for me today I don't think, pretty sure my BB is on it's very last legs based on last nights ride with trailer... Need to take it into the shop next week I guess :( That and the fact that I'm pretty tired since Thursday I think I'll take the day to chill, tidy up and bake a cake with my little one.
Doing the hill sprints (on foot) on Thursday felt fine at the time, but it's caught up to me now I guess - especially after hauling the trailer cross-town into the wind again :p The first run I did was up Colborne Lodge Rd from Queensway level, I got a hefty heaving stitch when I did Spring Rd though, that one was much harder :p
Assuming the planets align, anyone want to see MASH SF and the Bootleg Sessions next week? I've also got the Lucas Brunelle stuff somewhere.
I was thinking Thursday night apres work - my place isn't huge but I could probably fit upto 8 and have shelter for bikes.
About the MKS dust caps... I they're threaded, with four little holes (too small for a pin spanner).
I'll try the paper clip :) The little hole might be nice, but it would gives no access to the crank-side bearings I'd guess...
somnambulant
01-26-08, 11:54 AM
About the MKS dust caps... I they're threaded, with four little holes (too small for a pin spanner).
I'll try the paper clip :) The little hole might be nice, but it would gives no access to the crank-side bearings I'd guess...
I'm not sure about the internals of the MKS pedals, but that's how I grease my various Crank Bros and Speedplay pedals. Just jam the tip of the grease injector into the end of the spindle (using the appropriate manufactured supplied adaptor dingaling), and just keep squeezing grease in there. You'll see the old nasty stuff start to squeeze out of the crank side of the spindle through the seal. Once you see clean grease coming out, you're done.
Speaking of which, I bought two tubes of Phil grease at MEC this week and the end is too small to thread into my grease injector. d'oh!
on my way out to run some errands and grab a coffee. if anyone wants to meet up, give me a ringadingding.
cavernmech
01-26-08, 12:31 PM
About the MKS dust caps... I they're threaded, with four little holes (too small for a pin spanner).
I'll try the paper clip :) The little hole might be nice, but it would gives no access to the crank-side bearings I'd guess...
I have had this prob several times in the past. The best method I have found (short of the proper tool) is to clamp 2 awls in a vise in the correct alignment for the cap....use the whole pedal to spin it out. My Time ATAC's have a similar arrangement and this method always works.
operator
01-26-08, 01:02 PM
Rob you were talking 16/20 f/b right?
You weigh like 130-140 soaking wet?
I've got that funky radial on the non-drive side of my rear wheel, I'll be getting it relaced to 2 or 3x. I've got a couple spokes that insist on coming loose. I like the clean look of the radial but man the roads around here.
Oh this is for the 14h front. I think I should be ok (120lbs). The 12/14/16h shamals did win the TdF after all. Indurain TT'ed on them as well. Gewiss team was climbing on them too.
jet sanchEz
01-26-08, 01:07 PM
Sounds like they will be a wicked set of wheels, what are they going on?
Indurain is 6'2" and was close to 180lbs for all of his TdF wins, I am sure you will be fine on them ;)
DrBenway
01-26-08, 01:17 PM
Sounds like they will be a wicked set of wheels, what are they going on?
Indurain is 6'2" and was close to 180lbs for all of his TdF wins, I am sure you will be fine on them ;)
So I do have a chance (6'4", 190lbs)? Was he old too?
Rennick and I a great meet with Sean from the Bicycle Film Festival (Toronto). They've got some good ideas and are looking to really do it up this year - provided all of the required sponsorships, etc... fall into place. But we're going to try and help with that as well. That said, don't be surprised if you get a PM begging to tap into your expertise/networks. :D
operator
01-26-08, 01:34 PM
So I do have a chance (6'4", 190lbs)? Was he old too?
Rennick and I a great meet with Sean from the Bicycle Film Festival (Toronto). They've got some good ideas and are looking to really do it up this year - provided all of the required sponsorships, etc... fall into place. But we're going to try and help with that as well. That said, don't be surprised if you get a PM begging to tap into your expertise/networks. :D
If you can do 6W+/kg for around an hour you're ready for the pro tour.
Flimflam
01-26-08, 01:59 PM
OK so I'm around 170lbs, which is 77kg. 77 * 6 is 462, so let's say 470W over an hour? Sounds like a lot :p Is there any reasonable method in calculating bike power other than using those powertap cranks? I'm nowhere near TdF levels obviously, but I'd be interested in finding out quite how much I suck.
Anyone ever considered doing the TdC? - I'm going to be doing it in or before 2010 (the year I'll be 30). My main problem being finances to afford it (3 months off work + fees = $$$), if need be I'll go it alone without the Tour proper, but I'd rather not if poss.
iherald
01-26-08, 02:38 PM
Anyone ever considered doing the TdC? - I'm going to be doing it in or before 2010 (the year I'll be 30). My main problem being finances to afford it (3 months off work + fees = $$$), if need be I'll go it alone without the Tour proper, but I'd rather not if poss.
I was going to do my ride with them, but there were some issues with being able to raise money for charity while doing their ride. I don't think my blood presure will like me getting into those issues.
That said, while in Quebec I met some people who were doing it. They said it was a good operation. They did have nice maps for each day's ride.
I really wonder about radial on the streets of Toronto, you don't think they might be too delicate? I am pretty big though, so I know I could never get away with it but then again, I am riding 28h Miches and haven't had a problem......yet.
Radial seems alright for me in the front. My Shimano R561 front wheel is radial. Same with the Aksium front. I wouldn't want radial anywhere in the rear, tho.
So it is possible to do distance on fixed. I rode fixed up to the school (GH)... s'alright, just gotta go down from 82 gear inches. Maybe go from a 50t in the front to a 46 or 42.
operator
01-26-08, 03:10 PM
OK so I'm around 170lbs, which is 77kg. 77 * 6 is 462, so let's say 470W over an hour? Sounds like a lot :p Is there any reasonable method in calculating bike power other than using those powertap cranks? I'm nowhere near TdF levels obviously, but I'd be interested in finding out quite how
Nothing remotely useful anyways. There's online calculators which is just basically one big derviation from first principles of how much power you "should" be putting out to maintain a certain speed. Obviously none of the variables that are important can be measured accurately enough to give you a good wattage end result. (*coughs* iBike)
So in a nutshell: powertap ($900 for the hub) is the cheapest way to determine power. 6W/kg is elite, lance armstrong level so you don't necessarily need to be that high. If you can get yourself on a computrainer, that will also tell you how much power you're doing.
http://www.biketechreview.com/archive/pm_review.htm
Sounds like they will be a wicked set of wheels, what are they going on?
My steelie clamont
So it is possible to do distance on fixed. I rode fixed up to the school (GH)... s'alright, just gotta go down from 82 gear inches. Maybe go from a 50t in the front to a 46 or 42.
82 gear inches o_0
On Half-radial for rear wheels, this is what Sheldon has to say:
"More and more rear wheels now are built "half-radial" with semi-tangent spoking on the right side and radial spoking on the left. Radial front wheels offer mainly esthetic benefits, but half radial rear wheels are substantially more durable than conventional ones. The high amount of dishing called for to make room for more and more sprockets has caused an increase in spoke breakage on the left side of rear wheels. This is caused by metal fatigue.
A spoked wheel relies on having all of the spokes in constant tension. A highly dished rear wheel starts with very light tension on the left side spokes. The torque of hard pedaling can cause the left side "leading" spokes to occasionally go completely slack momentarily. Repeated cycles of tension and slackness cause these spokes to fatigue at the bends, and ultimately break.
With half-radial spoking, the amount of dish is slightly less to begin with if you run the radial spokes up along the inside of its flange. In addition, since there are no "leading" spokes, no amount of torque on the hub can reduce the tension on any of the spokes. In fact, if you have a customer who has been breaking left side spokes, "half rebuilding" the wheel into a half radial will solve the problem once and for all.
Shimano makes some nice wheels, and preform much better aero wise than their price suggests. Check this out: http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html
It's a multi-part "grand" wheel test, wait for the other parts to come online (only the first two right now). But it should be well worth it. They test all the most modern wheelsets against each others.
somnambulant
01-26-08, 03:41 PM
So I do have a chance (6'4", 190lbs)? Was he old too?
Rennick and I a great meet with Sean from the Bicycle Film Festival (Toronto). They've got some good ideas and are looking to really do it up this year - provided all of the required sponsorships, etc... fall into place. But we're going to try and help with that as well. That said, don't be surprised if you get a PM begging to tap into your expertise/networks. :D
Tell him not to do it on the same weekend as the Hot Summer Nights 24h race this year.
Flimflam
01-26-08, 05:52 PM
I was going to do my ride with them, but there were some issues with being able to raise money for charity while doing their ride. I don't think my blood presure will like me getting into those issues.
That said, while in Quebec I met some people who were doing it. They said it was a good operation. They did have nice maps for each day's ride.
Yeah I read about that a bit, kinda bothered me too as I was thinking of doing some charity-type thing for my venture to make it less selfish and worth more than just self gratification. I signed up to the TdC group though so I could get all the info I could re: LONG distance touring and stuff like that. It does look as though they've got a good operation going. I've never seen anywhere else in Canada really, so for me it's a big personal jaunt as well as a feat unto itself I guess.
jeremywhitehorn
01-26-08, 11:07 PM
Hey anybody knows where to get a tool to remove the dust cap on MKS pedals (GR-9: 2 small holes diametrically opposed)? They could use a overhaul. I guess urbane or curbside (who carry MKS pedals) have it...
when in doubt, use vice grips.
jeremywhitehorn
01-26-08, 11:17 PM
i'm not sure i'd be comfortable radial-lacing a rear wheel (a dishless fixed one anyway); mostly because i ride off curbs and am already a big guy (cycling wise) with a penchant for beer and carrying cargo. i do have a 28h wheel that is many years old and holding up fine however. i can't see the reason for building half radial save for wheels with 10 speed cassettes.
when in doubt, use vice grips.
Nooo! :eek: Vice grips are tools to be used only as a last resort! :)
Anyways... turns out the dustcaps are simply popped in. But they're recessed in the pedal so they were very hard to remove.
jeremywhitehorn
01-28-08, 01:47 PM
where is everybody? it's monday, i thought you'd all want to ease your way into the work week with a little bike talk...
Flimflam
01-28-08, 01:53 PM
I'm having a hard time not walking out of work today, so many stupid people and things that they do... gah! :p Looks like I've got a case of the Mondays! ;)
My BB is on it's last scrape of life by the feel, it's got a significant amount of play in the spindle now - and I need it to last me until payday so I can get it repaired (replaced). As it's my only running bike right now, I'm feeling the pain. Each revolution I'm catching the front derailleur because the cranks are being pushed about that much... Preventative maintenance would've been good here. The extra torque I had to use with the trailer on the back really sent it into a faster decline, I think.
^^ Time to say bye to that FD. Honestly, that sucks. What type of BB do you need?
Flimflam
01-28-08, 02:39 PM
No idea, I'll be taking it into the shop to get them to do it (likely Urbane) - I don't have the tools for BB replacement either. It's a mid-80s (I think) Centurion LeMans.
I should get rid of the FD, I only use the 42T chainring on *very* rare occasions (like climbing the Niagara Escarpment) - I'm usually singlespeeding it on 52:19. S'ok, it's been an awesome bike and abused to hell and back for a freebie.
iherald
01-28-08, 05:33 PM
does anyone know an approximate cost of stretching a canvas onto one of those wooden stretcher frames? I guess the cost of that stretcher frame too.
operator
01-28-08, 05:40 PM
kergin/lordfoo:
Can we meet up at bikechain tomorrow or wed around lunch sometime? What times you guys good for (later the better for me 2-3pm?)
Flimflam
01-28-08, 06:58 PM
How'd you like that play in the BB eh Rob? :p Cheers for booking me in, I'll be sure to clean 'er up before I bring it in too - the Bloor/Danforth valley bridge was *filthy* on Sunday.
So is anyone interested in bike-movies for Thursday circa 7pm?
operator
01-28-08, 07:22 PM
How'd you like that play in the BB eh Rob? :p Cheers for booking me in, I'll be sure to clean 'er up before I bring it in too - the Bloor/Danforth valley bridge was *filthy* on Sunday.
So is anyone interested in bike-movies for Thursday circa 7pm?
Lol @ the play. Flimflam - if you have time free during the day you can bring it by bikechain and I can help you overhaul/tighten that up. It might just be saveable.
kergin/lordfoo:
Can we meet up at bikechain tomorrow or wed around lunch sometime? What times you guys good for (later the better for me 2-3pm?)
Wednesday is better for me, and I can meet there at around 2:30?
Flimflam
01-28-08, 08:34 PM
Lol @ the play. Flimflam - if you have time free during the day you can bring it by bikechain and I can help you overhaul/tighten that up. It might just be saveable.
Where's that then? Google tells me "Cumberland House, 33 St. George St., just north of College St." - if that's still cool, what time will you be there? I've only an hour lunch but can take it just about any time I want.
operator
01-28-08, 09:05 PM
Where's that then? Google tells me "Cumberland House, 33 St. George St., just north of College St." - if that's still cool, what time will you be there? I've only an hour lunch but can take it just about any time I want.
Meet 2? Or you can find me at urbane around then - i'm going to ride up there (literally 2 blocks north).
jeremywhitehorn
01-28-08, 09:06 PM
does anyone know an approximate cost of stretching a canvas onto one of those wooden stretcher frames? I guess the cost of that stretcher frame too.
give the people at woolfitt's art supplies (http://www.woolfitts.com/index_about.htm) a call. i think it depends on the size of the canvas.
iherald
01-29-08, 06:16 AM
give the people at woolfitt's art supplies (http://www.woolfitts.com/index_about.htm) a call. i think it depends on the size of the canvas.
Thanks!!
operator
01-29-08, 07:04 AM
kergin/lordfoo: wed it is
kylehutton
01-29-08, 07:20 AM
ok,
so normally when i'm booking it along college, and a car starts getting to close to the bike lane i'll give a shout, and if they do it again i'll give their car a love tap.
what do you do when the car that repeatedly keeps almost sideswiping you is a cop car?
somnambulant
01-29-08, 07:23 AM
ok,
so normally when i'm booking it along college, and a car starts getting to close to the bike lane i'll give a shout, and if they do it again i'll give their car a love tap.
what do you do when the car that repeatedly keeps almost sideswiping you is a cop car?
If you're riding a fully legal bike (read: reflectors/lights/bell), give 'em hell. Otherwise the most I'd do is give them the stink eye. :)
On a related note, I saw a cop car park in the bike lane (with the car still running, 'natch) at College & Huron yesterday while dude ran into Pita Pit for a sammich. Setting a fine example, particularly since there's legal parking on Huron.
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