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TRaffic Jammer
04-11-06, 11:40 AM
I would imagine the coaters would do the media blasting but what do I know?
cavernmech
04-11-06, 11:48 AM
Complete blast/removal of old paint....1 colour coat...about $75.
operator
04-11-06, 12:38 PM
****ing beatniks.. ;)
Ahhhah, hahhahah hahahha!
P.S Only because somnambulant is a com sci geek and i'm no
P.P.S Uh wait a second...
Since you are now and employee of our crappy institution. Here is my list of demands.
Fix our schools webpages (utterly useless atm), here's a list of annoyances (pretty please).
1) Inconsistent layout
2) Other than letterhead fluff information, it is impossible to find links to current deparmtnet course webpages and other information like exam/summer timetables from utorontos main page. Nor is there a central place to find older years of this information.
3) ROSI web services has ridiculous "hours of operation". It does not take 6 hours a day to "backup the db" or whatever lame excuse they came up with.
In short even though the internal search engine changed from some no good vendors implementation to googles, our website is still completely and utterly useless. I think someone needs to do a serious usability evaluation on our website.
Oh and my 8k a year tuition is paying for this so do good job! (j/k).
TRaffic Jammer
04-11-06, 01:47 PM
Are you holding anything hostage?
I wouldn't make demands of a web guru, unless your holding his Deep Space 9 dvds.:p
It would only take a decent hacker monkey a few minutes to............
Convert your home or office phone# to a payphone requiring a quarter whenever you need to call. (This was done to the NYC DA)
Change your marks
Bump your debt to that of a superpower
Have you declared deceased OR
Have a picture posted of you doing a double middle finger track stand, drawing much ire and mockery from the rest of the world.
2600, where life began
'The Geek shall inherit the Earth'
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 02:36 PM
Hmm interesting topics
Im curious about these OSLO bikes, what did they do to exactly Cavernmech? Did you actually have any of their frames?
And on another topic
Id like some comments on my proposed specs for the new frames
- 4 sizes 51, 54, 57, 60. Probably with slightly extended seat tube.
- chainstays 16 to 16.5 inches
- Flat top tubes, no sloping
- Angles.. is prefered more road angles? ie 72-72, 72-73?
- bb hieght 12 inches or is 11.5 more prefered?
Heres the pro and cons of bb hieght. The taller you go you lose standover clearance, however a taller bb
allows for use of longer crank arms ie a 170.
let me know
-polly
TRaffic Jammer
04-11-06, 02:41 PM
I don't know what the difference in the angles would entail exactly, but I personally prefer a little less aggressive stance, getting old. I'd prefer the higher BB so more cranks COULD work, giving the frame a road/track ability. I'm in the sizing range so that works for me. Polly, those dropouts are dead sexy.
32flavours
04-11-06, 02:45 PM
Not that I'm in the market for a new bike, but smaller sizes catering to tiny people such as myself would be lovely. But I do understand that the market for tiny bikes is not huge, so it doesn't make much sense to make tiny frames.
Offhoff
04-11-06, 02:50 PM
I once had the whole "hours of operation" with ROSI explained to me in mind-numbing technical detail for a story i was writing. Suffice it to say there is a good reason for it to happen but mostly because UofT hasn't spent any money on decent backbone servers for anyone outside of Engineering and MedSci for a very long time. And there is a good security concern considering that if the system isn't on overnight it makes it much more difficult to skulk around in it unnoticed.
I found UofT to be fine until they tried to use www.turnitin.com and I had to threaten legal action in order to avoid having to use it. 'Course I was in about the smallest program on the campus so that probably made it easier. The key to getting anything done I found was flirting with the secretaries because that was where the real power was. They knew exactly how to get anything done and would help you but only if they liked you.
I should go back and finish up my last year, but unlike what everyone tells you a B.A. is worth about as much as a flatus in most businesses. Its all experience and in my business getting experience only requires writing and recording stories.
jeremywhitehorn
04-11-06, 02:50 PM
Not that I'm in the market for a new bike, but smaller sizes catering to tiny people such as myself would be lovely. But I do understand that the market for tiny bikes is not huge, so it doesn't make much sense to make tiny frames.
i guess it depends what you mean when you say tiny. maybe you'd be interested in one of these:
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/apr/MichaelMartin.htm#image_3
darkmother
04-11-06, 02:51 PM
Complete blast/removal of old paint....1 colour coat...about $75.
That's not bad. Is it possible to mask various parts? The back half of the rear triangle is chrome. I think they end up baking your frame in an oven right?
jeremywhitehorn
04-11-06, 02:54 PM
[QUOTE=jeremywhitehorn]i guess it depends what you mean when you say tiny. maybe you'd be interested in one of these:
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/apr/MichaelMartin.htm#image_3
TRaffic Jammer
04-11-06, 02:59 PM
sweeeeet....that IS tiny
32flavours
04-11-06, 03:01 PM
Har! I *wish* I was cool enough to ride that bike. But I'm not, and that's just something I'll have to learn to live with... *wistful sigh* If anyone cares though, I'm currently riding a 43 cm frame. I could probably stand to go a smidge bigger, but the availability of these sizes was conspicuously absent when I bought my bike.
Offhoff
04-11-06, 03:05 PM
They did basic masking for me of my dropouts when I had my frame done. You can see pictures here. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20635292@N00/113871526/)
sr20det
04-11-06, 03:12 PM
anyone remember the name of the owner of high park cycles?
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 03:25 PM
Road angles, that is the way I was leaning.
Small size frames. I been thinking about that and maybe a range made for women, that would depend on demand though.
I do have few of the original frames left in small, c to c 44?. They have sloping top tubes. The new batch wont.
Again this is all based on demand.
32 flavours, what size top tube are you running?
cavernmech
04-11-06, 03:29 PM
Hmm interesting topics
Im curious about these OSLO bikes, what did they do to exactly Cavernmech? Did you actually have any of their frames?
- 4 sizes 51, 54, 57, 60. Probably with slightly extended seat tube.
- Flat top tubes, no sloping
-polly
What did they do to exactly Cavernmech? OSLO? What dialect of english is this anyways? :)
4 sizes but not sloping or compact? Sounds like a problem. You will exclude a fair amount of people who fall between these sizes. With the impetus these days on a proper fitting bike, you may want to consider 6 sizes...52-60 cm in 2 cm increments. 3 cm increments sounds a bit much to me.
cavernmech
04-11-06, 03:30 PM
That's not bad. Is it possible to mask various parts? The back half of the rear triangle is chrome. I think they end up baking your frame in an oven right?
Heat tape sorts that out. Just tell Maria when you drop it off....she will have it masked for you.
cavernmech
04-11-06, 03:31 PM
anyone remember the name of the owner of high park cycles?
Johnny "get out of my shop unless you will overpay" Buoco.
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 03:34 PM
Actually womens bikes/frames are something im curious about the demand for.
I might have a few demos made up to show around. But what do women want in a bike or frame?
Im assuming not a pink bike, right? probably more a blue or a red? Are shorter top tubes the only difference?
Do you chicks want a "women specific" fixed gear frame?
sr20det
04-11-06, 03:43 PM
oi, there we go! haha. Buoco! :) thanks.
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 03:53 PM
Sorry Cavernmech, Ostro.
Sizing... well sloping top tube doesnt interest people.
6 sizes? If there was enough demand that might be possible, for now its 4 sizes. Those fit most people.
The top tube lengths will be 51 gets a 52 top tube, 54 gets a 54 top tube, 57 gets a 56, 60 gets a 58 top tube.
I guess the smaller of the 4 could have a touch longer 51 could have 52.5, 54 could get a 55 top tube.
The 54 and 57 would be most popular. The 60 might do fairly well considering I got alot of requests for a big frames. Although some could use a longer top tube on the 60..ie a 60 top tube or longer. 58cm should fit alot of people.
If I do them with a sloping top tube, people will turn up their nose. Unless the market has caught up with my design. I doubt it.
wasted weasel
04-11-06, 04:34 PM
regarding frames, slopping top tube and road geometry: I am only a single opinion but I like tighter 'race/track' geometry. Road geometry I can get anywhere. But I've always lusted for frames like the older KHS Flite with 'forward' sloping top tube or the GTB tack frames that angle the seat tube back to make for a shorter wheelbase...
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 04:47 PM
GTB track frames? do they have a URL?
Not crazy about sloping forward frames. I thought about curving the seat tube to tuck the back wheel in more.
What about head angle, ill probably stick with road because as much as you think you want overlap. The first time u whack your foot on your wheel you will be cursing me.
wasted weasel
04-11-06, 04:57 PM
I thought about curving the seat tube to tuck the back wheel in more.
yeah I like that idea
gt frames http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=186888
Shiznaz
04-11-06, 05:00 PM
Actually womens bikes/frames are something im curious about the demand for.
I might have a few demos made up to show around. But what do women want in a bike or frame?
Im assuming not a pink bike, right? probably more a blue or a red? Are shorter top tubes the only difference?
Do you chicks want a "women specific" fixed gear frame?
My girlfriend really wants a pink bike. Hell, I'd like a pink bike!
operator
04-11-06, 05:09 PM
Repaint your cyclops in pink... haha!
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 05:17 PM
Pink.. and a red tire for the front right?
Tahnks for the link wasted, the seat tube angle on those are about 74.5 thats not too off from road, head tube though is 75..hmm
I would love a link to the actual geometry spec sheet. I cant copy that frame exactly ie: triple triangle, but I can work something out. A run down on the geometry per size would really help.
Shiznaz
04-11-06, 05:21 PM
Repaint your cyclops in pink... haha!
The only thing better than riding a pink bike is riding one vicariously through your cute girlfriend :D
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 05:27 PM
Also any links to frames..preferably steel with curved seat tube.
Id consider making a compact frame option, but doesnt seem like that is in too high demand.
Another option instead of a compact frame is to extend the seat tube, and the headtube slightly. Im not sure that would look so great but it would keep the classic lines while allowing for a bit more standover.
operator
04-11-06, 05:35 PM
The only thing better than riding a pink bike is riding one vicariously through your cute girlfriend :D
:eek:
paul_in_toronto
04-11-06, 05:39 PM
Pink bike..hm so thats what you call hipster style?
I wonder if my shiny green metalic caloi qualifies.
That reminds me of a story, I have no idea why I did this and I should consider doing it again.
If CAVERNMECH remembers this, im sure he will say "oh god"
Now this is hip before hip, back in early 90s I had a miele that was mostly covered in chiquita banana stickers. That was a pretty famous bike, it toured to NYC, people took pictures with it. Unfortunely it died one day on the way to Shannons aka cycle courier bike shop? head tube totally snapped all the way around.
I rmember buying bananas covered with as many stickers as I could get. It was tough going shopping with Rod and doing that because he would always shake his head or pretend not to know me.
Lol
Do you remember the chiquita bike CAVERNMECH?
Now CAVERNMECH had the coolest of bikes.. before it was even an idea to do this..wow we certainly were
the visionaires back then.
He had a single speed BLUE STUMPJUMPER? Man that was trick.. It was steel of course, It had cartridge hubs etc..
eyefloater
04-11-06, 05:40 PM
Re: curved seat tube ...
The old KHS Aerotrack comes to mind (link has geometry specs):
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/khs-track.gif
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:g6uBkBYfdhcJ:www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/khs-aerotrack.html+khs+aerotrack&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=6
eyefloater
04-11-06, 06:14 PM
Got a question:
I thought Performance Bicycle used UPS to ship Canadian orders, but all I see on their site is FedEx. If FedEx is really what they use, does anyone know if they have any obnoxious international shipping fees like UPS?
operator
04-11-06, 06:25 PM
Yes eyefloater. You will get gayed to the max with Fedex. I did hear that performance switched to USPS but that's uncomfirmed.
On an $80 order I placed last year, I got dinged a total of $40 on top of that after customs/brokerages/duties. Twas fedex ground.
www.Probikekit.com ftw
eyefloater
04-11-06, 06:36 PM
Oh riiight ... Come on, last year's Adidas mtb shoes.
somnambulant
04-11-06, 06:37 PM
my chain seems to have stretched all of a sudden.. what's up with that? :) Suddenly in the past week it doesn't seem to line up with the chainring teeth and it's gotten super noisy. I assume that == chain stretch.
Guess I'll pick up a new one!
eyefloater
04-11-06, 06:40 PM
Did you like it when I gave you the finger today on Harbord? Well, DID YOU MOTHER****ER?!
operator
04-11-06, 06:42 PM
my chain seems to have stretched all of a sudden.. what's up with that? :) Suddenly in the past week it doesn't seem to line up with the chainring teeth and it's gotten super noisy. I assume that == chain stretch.
Guess I'll pick up a new one!
probikekit ftw
$10 shipped for sram 8 spd chain with masterlink.
P.S I stretched your chain when you weren't looking
Shiznaz does the UT library contain gis data sets with elevation data for toronto/gta +/- 1m resolution?
Shiznaz
04-11-06, 07:18 PM
probikekit ftw
$10 shipped for sram 8 spd chain with masterlink.
P.S I stretched your chain when you weren't looking
Shiznaz does the UT library contain gis data sets with elevation data for toronto/gta +/- 1m resolution?
Most likely... the contours may be spaced a little wider but that shouldn't really matter. I haven't really used the GIS library that much
sr20det
04-11-06, 08:00 PM
oohh... tell us some more interesting stories!
Shiznaz
04-11-06, 08:01 PM
Okay! There once was a lass from Nantucket...
somnambulant
04-11-06, 08:06 PM
Okay! There once was a lass from Nantucket...
There once was a man named Eenis...
sr20det
04-11-06, 08:06 PM
oh damn! i love this one.
eyefloater, go get the popcorn ready! and don't forget to bring the blankets.
somnambulant
04-11-06, 08:06 PM
Did you like it when I gave you the finger today on Harbord? Well, DID YOU MOTHER****ER?!
Yes! Oh god yes!
sr20det
04-11-06, 08:15 PM
anyways, do you guys have anything planned for the long weekend yet?
jeremywhitehorn
04-11-06, 08:18 PM
anyone remember the name of the owner of high park cycles?
from what i remember his name is john something. just call him grumpy old man.
eyefloater
04-11-06, 08:19 PM
There's a long weekend?
operator
04-11-06, 08:22 PM
Yes! Oh god yes!
...
There's a long weekend?
Lol.
For the long weekend let's ride to a place far far away called Richmond Hill!
jeremywhitehorn
04-11-06, 08:24 PM
Also any links to frames..preferably steel with curved seat tube.
Id consider making a compact frame option, but doesnt seem like that is in too high demand.
Another option instead of a compact frame is to extend the seat tube, and the headtube slightly. Im not sure that would look so great but it would keep the classic lines while allowing for a bit more standover.
what's the point of extending the seatube? i never understood this. a taller heatube i only find useful if you're running a threaded fork so you can get the bars higher. with a threadless fork it just means you use less spacers.
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