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HereNT
04-06-05, 02:35 PM
Dura-Ace 36H Fix/Fix laced to an Alex DV-15 for $165?

Quick help appreciated, as I will probably be buying this on my lunch break. It's either that or another one of the QBP house Surly/MA3 wheels for $40 cheaper at another shop...

Thanks!


pitboss
04-06-05, 02:35 PM
YES! Buy it - if you don't tell me the shop via PM - I want it

baxtefer
04-06-05, 02:41 PM
DV-15's aren't all that hot, but yeah. good deal.


HereNT
04-06-05, 02:45 PM
I suppose I could always lace it to something else later on.

Now the real question - will my boss care if everything I print tonight has greasy fingerprints on it?

:D

pitboss
04-06-05, 02:53 PM
Do It!!

HereNT
04-06-05, 03:01 PM
I will - gotta get some stuff cleaned up at work, then I'm going...

ink1373
04-06-05, 03:04 PM
you better hurry, i'm going to each shop in the twin cities one by one until i find it!

my money is on kenwood. har.

HereNT
04-06-05, 03:13 PM
You'd snipe a man riding a stripped hub? Bastard!

ink1373
04-06-05, 03:18 PM
nah, i just like making your head do this:

"is he kidding? he's kidding....right?"

muahaha.

fixedfiend
04-06-05, 03:35 PM
I just payed $160 to have my Phil hub (which I already owned ) laced to a 36h. Open Pro.

Kiecker
04-06-05, 03:39 PM
You'd snipe a man riding a stripped hub? Bastard!

I was going to ask you what happened after you got home. Stripped huh? That sucks. Good thing you had a 14 on the other side.

HereNT
04-06-05, 03:45 PM
Yeah, kind of sucks. I tried putting a new cog and lockring on this morning before work, but no luck. Since the 14 won't come off, I'm kind of stuck, and I don't want to do any more of long rides in 46x14 if I can avoid it...

HereNT
04-06-05, 04:44 PM
Alright, it's mine now, only I just realized it's a schrader, not a presta. Dammit. The hub feels really smooth, and it's got really sweet nuts and the locknuts are massive and serrated. I think I'm going to be happy with it. I like the fact that the rim is flat black, too.

baxtefer
04-06-05, 04:51 PM
schraeder/presta, it don't matter. you're now a universal acceptor of replacement tubes.


heh heh, sweet nuts.....

chrisgerne
04-06-05, 04:55 PM
hahaha... i was gonna say something about the sweet nuts too.



;x sorry.


and for getting stuck cogs off.
the "italian method" definately works.... i broke two chainwhips (albeit nashbar chainwhips) trying to get my 15 off, and with the torque of the chain wrapped around the cog and the bottom bracket, and the leverage of the tire, it definately worked.

HereNT
04-06-05, 05:34 PM
They are sweet nuts. You guys should get your minds out of the gutter.

http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/7710hub2.jpg

That's the hub - the pair are going for $187.50 at Business Cycles.

I noticed looking at the price tag while cleaning the dust off (and realizing I've already dinged up the rim from carrying it on my bike) that they've had it in there since last August! Maybe it wasn't such a good deal... Or just no-one ever goes into that LBS looking for track stuff...

pitboss
04-06-05, 06:54 PM
nah dude - good deal. That hub will serve you will

icithecat
04-06-05, 07:48 PM
Long after the price is forgotten, the joy of quality delivers.

HereNT
04-06-05, 11:50 PM
Dammit, I'm going to have to build one of these for the front rim now! Baxtefer, you were wrong - these rims are AWESOME on my bike :

http://www.werstnet.com/site_images/blog_images/New_Rim/OnBike_close.jpg
http://www.werstnet.com/site_images/blog_images/New_Rim/Full_Bike.jpg
http://www.werstnet.com/site_images/blog_images/New_Rim/Rim.jpg
http://www.werstnet.com/site_images/blog_images/New_Rim/NewHub.jpg
What I was replacing :
http://www.werstnet.com/site_images/blog_images/New_Rim/OldHub.jpg

The Italian method worked to get my 14t cog off, so I am probably just going to go with a smaller front chainring, since Dura-Ace doesn't make cogs above 16t.

Anyone know anything about Suntour track cogs? That's what my 14t is, and it's way beefier than my 16t Dura-Ace. That's the 14t in the old hub shot. I want more of those cogs. Are they even in business anymore? It's too late for me to want to do any googling tonight...

baxtefer
04-06-05, 11:56 PM
well, looks-wise they're great. quality-wise they're so-so. but maybe that's just the quality of the wheelbuild.

how was mounting that vittoria tire? In case you are ever tempted to change tires, I've found that these rims and conti tires don't play nicely..

jim-bob
04-06-05, 11:58 PM
Suntour went under a while ago.

baxtefer
04-07-05, 12:01 AM
suntour cogs come up on ebay quite often. Kwality stuff apparently.

HereNT
04-07-05, 12:06 AM
Actually, that's a pic I didn't re-size and post. When I first inflated the tire, the tube stuck out under one section. I let the air out, mashed it a bit, and re-inflated and it seems fine. Hopefully I don't have to go back to the Gatorskins - the vittorias look way too nice. But they have already given me my first flat in months after only a couple weeks of riding...

I figure 36 hole will be better than 32 for going out of true. I'm not sure what else I should be looking for in quality. Either way, I'm thinking that I need black rims front and rear now, after seeing what it looks like. Gonna have to save some money up first, though. My next paycheck is hopefully going towards a geared bike for doing longer rides... Hopefully there is something worthwhile at the police auction next week.

HereNT
04-07-05, 12:15 AM
suntour cogs come up on ebay quite often. Kwality stuff apparently.

All that's on there right now that I see is 3/32 stuff. I'd need 1/8. I'll keep an eye out though. It's a lot thicker than the Dura-Ace, and seems like it will last forever. There's hardly any wear on the one I have. It's also nice that the center area is recessed a little, so you can get a little more lockring threads in... The body is thick enough to take all the cog threads still, so I think that's probably why my chainline is a little off when I flip the wheel...

habitus
04-07-05, 12:29 AM
herent, how long were you riding on the surly hub? and was the stripping caused by some "user error" or nothing to your knowledge? just curious.

HereNT
04-07-05, 12:37 AM
I was riding on it maybe 9 months. My last one lasted a lot longer than that. I put new wheels on that are a lot smoother and made skidding a lot easier a couple of weeks ago, so I was skidding a lot more than back pedaling just because I could. The day it failed, I was being stupid and drunk and heading towards red lights at full bore then pulling really hard, digging, in-the-saddle 6-10 foot skids. It failed on the 5th light...

edit : Not sure I really want to sell that wheel yet - I may have a use for it come next week.

Kiecker
04-07-05, 07:49 AM
How about Soma cogs? The Hub carries them. Don't remember if they are just 3/32 or 1/8.

HereNT
04-07-05, 08:19 AM
I looked at the ones the Hub had, and wasn't all that impressed. I'm probably just going to stick with what I have on the rear and get a new chainring.

Kiecker
04-07-05, 08:38 AM
Cool. Here's another option too :)

http://www.philwood.com/Cog%2015t%2005%20LZ.jpg

HereNT
04-07-05, 08:43 AM
Ooh - that would match one of my lockrings!

dobber
04-07-05, 08:47 AM
I just payed $160 to have my Phil hub (which I already owned ) laced to a 36h. Open Pro.


A $160? That seems awful pricey for lacing a $60 rim to an existing hub. I picked up a pair of new High Flange DA's laced to blue OP's for ~$200, included lockring and nuts.

fixedfiend
04-07-05, 09:26 AM
A $160? That seems awful pricey for lacing a $60 rim to an existing hub. I picked up a pair of new High Flange DA's laced to blue OP's for ~$200, included lockring and nuts.

I guess I got raped by the LBS. I needed it in a pinch though because some car sideswiped my rim and made a nice taco out of it. I don't mind paying the local LBS extra if I know he's going to take care of me and get me parts pronto when I need it.

Kiecker
04-07-05, 10:03 AM
I wouldn't say you necessarily got screwed. You also have to add in the cost of of box of spokes and nipples. That's a good $25-35 more. So about 70 or so for labor which also isn't bad if you have a really good wheel builder.

fixedfiend
04-07-05, 10:57 AM
So about 70 or so for labor which also isn't bad if you have a really good wheel builder.

Excellent wheel builder, but not only that. They just scored me a NOS black, steel Colnago track fork, so I can finally seal the deal on that frame I've had my sights on.

HereNT
04-07-05, 12:31 PM
Finally got out and did some miles on the new wheel - WOW IT'S SMOOTH!

If I didn't know better, I would have swore I was coasting. There was pretty much NO friction... I'm really really really happy now.