Forum Suggestions & User Assistance - Men's Room?? (forum)

Having seen this thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=68942&highlight=Womens+forum)...

How do I access the Men's Room? Do I have to send Joe a PM (http://www.bikeforums.net/private.php?do=newpm&userid=3)?
:roflmao: :D :roflmao: :D :roflmao:

Doesn't exist.

Doesn't exist.

Did it ever?

As a joke, for about an hour.

As a joke, for about two minutes.
fixt ;)

:)

Having seen this thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=68942&highlight=Womens+forum)...

How do I access the Men's Room? Do I have to send Joe a PM?
:beer:

Just ask the lady at the cash register for the key.

sorry for such a large bump and all but i got a quick ? about this topic.
So you guys are saying you would rather us guys talk about our testicles get tormented and our tip going numb with the ladies round that just impolite and shouldnt have to be seen by these ladies also like we would like to hear bout the . and all

Men are just naturally more gross, and generally don't care if the ladies check us out or not.

Besides the above, just WHAT would we discuss? Truly, what do we have to say that is so personal we need to keep it closed. Which, of course, is the same argument some raised against starting the Women's Forum. (Standby for a blast from KB).

We went through all of this in that one hour of which Joe Gardner reminds us.

sorry for such a large bump and all but i got a quick ? about this topic.
So you guys are saying you would rather us guys talk about our testicles get tormented and our tip going numb with the ladies round that just impolite and shouldnt have to be seen by these ladies also like we would like to hear bout the . and all
You want to talk about yer knob, go ahead and talk about yer knob, or your john thomas, or your dangly bits, or your pecker, or your... well, you get the point. The 'ladies' don't have to read it if they don't want to.

Just don't include pics. :eek:

You want to talk about yer knob, go ahead and talk about yer knob, or your john thomas, or your dangly bits, or your pecker, or your... well, you get the point. The 'ladies' don't have to read it if they don't want to.

Just don't include pics. :eek:

I prefer from the classic and absolute top of the genre' - the movie "Porky's"

Tallywhacker

I prefer from the classic "Porky's"

Tallywhacker
Ah, Porky's... always good for a good ol' juvenile chuckle.

I usually go with 'short arm' or 'thumper'. :D

Men are just naturally more gross, and generally don't care if the ladies check us out or not.

*burps and farts* Now what did you say? :D

If it's about your body and it pertains to cycling and you're not shy about it then feel free to discuss. This goes the same for both men and women? People in computer forums talk about their power supplies, their CPU, etc. People in car forums talk about their engine and their interior and their dashboard, etc. On a bicycle, the human body is the engine. The human mind is the control center. They are as an important a part of cycling as anything can get. Why shouldn't you be able to talk about them? Why shouldn't men know about women's specific cycling issues and vice versa? You don't need to have a gender-specific forum to discuss physiology and cycling.

yes so WHY is there a sepererate forum for the ladies. What is there like a picture of a area getting chaffing or something like that or what i mean cmon they too should be made to either talk openly about it for all to read or to not talk about it

yes so WHY is there a sepererate forum for the ladies.

Does it matter? As long as men and women alike are equally free to post their questions in the rest of the forums, the existance of a seperate forum has little impact.

As a joke, for about an hour.

yeah i remember that forum, it was like yay! we got a mens forum.....now what are we supposed to do with it?

i think we might have got a couple beer threads started and that was it.

ok im not saying we should have a mens forum but more that why do they need a womens forum

ok im not saying we should have a mens forum but more that why do they need a womens forum

You are fighting a losing battle. Give it up!

If you do a search there was a large debate but here is the short and skinny...as an example...

"I need a saddle that is comfortable for a woman (insert excessive reason here based on things men don't understand physically)"

First guys response

"this one might help my gf likes it"

second guys response

"man I would kill to be your saddle for a day, can I see a picture"

third guys response through the 150th response is similar in the incredible witt and humour that "men" can respond with. And no I am not being sarcastic, I watched this happen for a long time before the womens forum was implemented and often responded within the forums trying to figure out what guys got from being pigs online. All it does is prove how little true female social interaction they have.

To the guys who would respond like number, this does now include you, and there are lots of us, but a forum for women was deemed required and has helped keep the 2 to 150th post down to nothing. Which I might add has been really nice to see.

As for why mens or not mens. This is a male dominated forums and the discussion will always turn in that direction. In many ways women are way more personal and private then men so they have their place. In relative terms this is no different than various coaching camps in and around bc as a whole. There is NEVER a mens only class, one or two women show up. There is ALWAYS an option for a girls only camp, they are refusing applications because of how many women want/think/react and are coached differently. Fact of life. Not all women (my gf would never visit the womens forum, she can handle herself and holds no embaressment about 'issues', but a lot of girls I know would)

Cheers
Maelstrom

You are fighting a losing battle. Give it up!


i agree..this argument was played out along time ago. do a search for womens forum and it will all become clear.

"I need a saddle that is comfortable for a woman (insert excessive reason here based on things men don't understand physically)"

First guys response
"this one might help my gf likes it"

second guys response
"man I would kill to be your saddle for a day, can I see a picture"

Excellent example! Made me laugh. :D :p I was going to post an example of my own, but opted out. Something involving "OMGHI2U! BEWBIES!" Etc...

Some people can't be, erm, polite about these things.

ok i may not be as mature as the next guy BUT i know to respect a lady and not be disrespectful to them BUT my mother has always wanted me to be open minded and to speek of problems and to listen to others problems and learn from that.
for example say my girlfriend wanted to get into biking(if that would ever happen) then i could help her pick out a seat and other bike specifics.

we have been together since 6th grade so it will be our 4th anneverary this year
o and also i still havent kissed her due to that she had to wait till she was 14 and i ALWAYS let her decide when the times right.

for example say my girlfriend wanted to get into biking(if that would ever happen) then i could help her pick out a seat and other bike specifics.

Then you could simply ask the same exact question in one of the other forums as appropriate to the type of riding she would be doing. I actually think posting in the Women's Cycling forum would gather less responses because it would be a more limited audience. Even when it was open to everyone, questions that were posted in there could just as easily have been posted to more specific forums and gotten better responses. That could be one of the reasons why Women's Cycling became private. It underwent a change of focus. The fact of the matter is that it is what it is. We could sit around and argue all day about whether or not that forum should remain private or even exist at all but that would change nothing. You can still get women's issues answered in any of the public forums and there are some female members who feel more comfortable with having a private forum.

also how would they really know who is a lady and who is a guy i mean someone could just say they are
also wouldnt that be against the rules to have a private forum as in inequality or sexist or something similar to that

also how would they really know who is a lady and who is a guy i mean someone could just say they are
also wouldnt that be against the rules to have a private forum as in inequality or sexist or something similar to that
You should start a guys-only forum on ezboards or something. Post a link to it in your signature. I'll meet you there.

Private board. There isn't anything against the rules per se. Just think of this as those female only health clubs. Those a completely legal (up here) anyways.

Vulgarity not only includes vulgar language and pictures but also sexist, racist, anti-religious and homophobic language which may offend other members.

now does that not pretain to this very matter of women having their own forum

Vulgarity not only includes vulgar language and pictures but also sexist, racist, anti-religious and homophobic language which may offend other members.

now does that not pretain to this very matter of women having their own forum

I don't think so unless the Women's Cycling forum is simply a vehicle for posts of a sexist, racist, anti-religious and homophobic language nature which I've been assured by many of its participants that it is not.

Vulgarity not only includes vulgar language and pictures but also sexist, racist, anti-religious and homophobic language which may offend other members.

now does that not pretain to this very matter of women having their own forum
You're overthinking it, dude.

Go ride. :D

maybe i am but im saying did they not have the fight for womens rights and for equality but yet they may have their freedom and all and thats good but why do they have their own forums that would create an inequality
so what do you have to say bout that

I have to say it isn't a political discussion. I gave my examples and they hold true. THATS the entire reasoning and thats the end of it from my end. I don't plan on debating womens rights and/or equality. The reasoning is really obvious if thought out and it helped keep the kids from the playpen so to speak.

The existance of the Women's Forum used to bother me more than it does now. I still think that it's exclusionary, and that, for equality-sake, there should be a Men's Forum, but I understand why we have one and not the other. It also doesn't bother me as much as it would if I could see that it existed, but couldn't gain access, as if it were taunting me with a link that wouldn't work for me. Since I can't see it, I don't care about it. Besides, my wife has visited it, and informed me that it's everyday women's stuff that I wouldn't find interesting. (And no, I haven't accessed it using her login.)

then why would that be on a cycling site if it is about normal women stuff please tell me that
also if that is it then why would they need it to be private most of us here should and prolly do know about that stuff anyways

Again, for the last time, read my post above, it explains a good enough reason for privacy. Whether you know or not, or whether you would be polite or not is irrelevant. There are those that can't be mature about it. Thats the last time I post, the last time I explain, if you still don't get it, please feel free to search for the previous debate. The exact same arguments came up, before I was a mod, and the exact same decision has been made.

As to the first question about why 'women' stuff on a cycling site, why do we have foo, music, politics, or any other general discussion topics...because this site is more than 'just' a cycling site.

then why would that be on a cycling site if it is about normal women stuff please tell me that
also if that is it then why would they need it to be private most of us here should and prolly do know about that stuff anyways
You sound just as bad as a militant nazi lesbian. You're looking for respect and validation in the wrong places.

Just go argue about affirmative action in the political forum and leave these good moderators alone.

but why not make it all one topic like many other forums make anything not related about the subject the forum was made for in one topic

also im not looking for respect nor am i looking for validation im looking for an anwser not along the lines of i told you so sort of thing and more of a thorough explanation to why which as far as i can tell you havent done a very good job

If a group of women were talking quietly in a cafe, do you think you would have the right to join their conversation? If they said they wanted to keep their conversation private, would you try to butt in, or would you find something else to do?

but why not make it all one topic like many other forums make anything not related about the subject the forum was made for in one topic

also im not looking for respect nor am i looking for validation im looking for an anwser not along the lines of i told you so sort of thing and more of a thorough explanation to why which as far as i can tell you havent done a very good job
You really need to learn how to read better.

Maelstrom has explained it quite well here, and the search option exists for a reason.

to daily commute it depends on what it is about

may i also point out that not only does a womens forum work out logically and "on paper" but it has been proving its self to be practicle and functional in reality for over 6 months now.

corwincastle
Joe put up the "Men's Forum" and as others have mentioned, it fell flat (as expected and explained already).
The Women's Forum seems to be doing just fine and this would show that it is nice to be able to have a place to discuss what they want related to being a female cyclist. I asked a few female riders and now better understand why it is a good thing the way it is. If you are curious, I recommend you politely do the same.
Joe gladly facilitated the request for a female forum, and it is moderated by female moderators under the same guidelines as this forum is.

I now offer you Trey Parker and Matt Stone's translation of the topic of this thread:
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/1873/602image0918cd.jpg

Side note: I rode my bike today. About 30 miles overall. I contributed to the local economy five times and almost met injury twice. I discussed with a complete stranger why honey and cream tastes better in coffee. I got a haircut too. I carried a new set of track tubulars across town and back again. I also read from Ovid's Metamorphosis. And not once did I think about whether or not Bikeforums.net requies a Men's Forum. Good times

I honestly don't see why there has to be a completely seperate forum dedicated to seats with the little hole in the middle, but at the same time, I really don't care or feel excluded in any way. You GO, girl! (The strains of "I'm Every Woman" swelll in the background.)

I honestly don't see why there has to be a completely seperate forum dedicated to seats with the little hole in the middle


That's where Mr.Hankey goes:

http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/315/315_hankey_flush.gif

Here's the main reason why women have a seperate forum... it's a place to put all the boring topics!

;)

If a group of women were talking quietly in a cafe, do you think you would have the right to join their conversation? If they said they wanted to keep their conversation private, would you try to butt in, or would you find something else to do?

to daily commute it depends on what it is about
It shouldn't. None of us has to be part of every conversation everywhere. This is a private forum. And if some people want to talk privately, that's fine with me.

That said, I'm curious to know what the LBS folks talk about in their private forum. That would probably have more impact on the rest of us than the women's forum. But, again, this is a private forum and they want to talk privately.

Here's the main reason why women have a seperate forum... it's a place to put all the boring topics!

;)


:eek: :D



That said, I'm curious to know what the LBS folks talk about in their private forum. That would probably have more impact on the rest of us than the women's forum. But, again, this is a private forum and they want to talk privately.


That forum is about as exciting as watching paint dry ;) :p

That forum is about as exciting as watching paint dry ;) :p

I think they talk about paint drying in there too. :D

ok so first off maelstrom how would you know and secondly if they have their own forum for all we know they may be talking bout us guys or something to that effect

ok so first off maelstrom how would you know and secondly if they have their own forum for all we know they may be talking bout us guys or something to that effect

You sound a bit paranoid.