lotek 

I think so, I'm picking him for podium come next sunday.

marty

jock

Sorry Marty, I'm not at all being serious. Team OV is in serious trouble this year.

classic1

That was Gabriel. I speak French like the Swedish Chef speaks Swedish!

mrkott3r

hmmm Cadel had problems keeping up at the end. He didn't crack but he couldn't keep up. Whats Menchov's Time trial like?

climbo

What was Horner doing? Cadel's protection man finished almost last !! Bloody Yanks are gonna ruin our Cadel's chances of the Yellow !!

ed073

Geez.....Cadel had the hurt face on 100%.

HDTVKSS

i thought he did pretty damn well. no real need to chase even though i dont think he oculd have followed at the end. plenty of climbing left in the tour.

didnt discovery just blow up, no 8 straight for them.

matagi

Gabriel, je regrette, mais je non parle pas francais. Monsieur Matagi demande - ou habite tu?

mrkott3r

I thought it pretty funny after the interview he gave at the beginning of the coverage, "Im Cadel's protection blah blah blah." Then he basically doesnt make it over the first climb with him. Hopefully he'll come good in the Alpes. He bloody wanna, or he'll have an angry bunch of Aussies after him.




Cadel even says he favours the Pyrenees, so for him to finish like that, is interesting. Cadel isn't the most aggressive rider in the tour either.

Looks like discovery is having a year off this year. Hincapie is funny to watch. He gets dropped the motorbike is filming him, and you swear Hincapie looks like he is just going to the coffee shop.

62vette

M. Matagi n'est pas heureux. Gabriel est dans une pile de merde

62vette

Sur votre vélo Gabriel

HDTVKSS

So finishing 4th on a stage that fractured majorly isnt agressive?

mrkott3r

not when he didnt make an attack

HDTVKSS

he didnt need to attack? its a long race and he wasnever going to drop Landis on this stage... leipheimer was looking for a stage win, hes well out of contention for GC.

the further down the order of theline you are the harder it is to respond to an attack. he did v well.

thunder

Finishing climb was only 6%,he likes it steeper. Pyrenean stages are usually steeper and shorter climbs, his style. The final climb was a power climbers climb, long not too steep, allowed ryhtm. LAndis just dominated. Very strong.

Evans has to make a move on alpe d'huez if he wants to win. The 8% climb is in his strikezone.


Alps are better quality roads, wider, not as steep, but longer and higher. Evans prefers the Pyrenees, probably a legacy of his MTB days. Steep, more narrow roads, less quality bitumen.

Not sure the realtive swtichbackness... but if switchbackness implies less % steepness, Alps might have more switcbacks, but they can break up rythm, depending on the tightness. so another contradiction,

classic1

Err Gabriel live in Greenland. Very long way. Unfortunately I unable to meet avec Monseuir Matagi.

wattsy_rules

So playing around with the bike last night changing the old cables cause the old ones were a bit rusty. Undid the cable stay on the front derrailleur and filings drop to the floor...uh oh, that can't be good. Anyway, I change the cable and went to tighten up the cable stay when, "Oh Sh*t, the screw has threaded itself". I then got the screw out and lot's of filings fall to the floor... The bracket has also threaded and now doesn't tighten up..."OF F*CK!!!" Spanners etc bounce off the walls while I try and work out what to do.

thunder

Triple jumping preacher Jonathon Edwards + 300lbs bench

He was all of 65 kgs and skinny.

HDTVKSS

not knowing much of sweet FA about weight, but how important is core strength to a bench press? i would imagine verry, and the only real combining factor between all the guys mentioned would be thier core strength...

wattsy_rules

Sorry, I hit the wrong button...

To continue. I thnen have a look to see if I can drill and tap...can't do this cause it would compromise the strength of the derrailleur bracket. So now I've got a 5mm hex head through the hole, which is being tightened by a SS nut on the other side. Is working ok but looks CRAP. Looks like I'm up for a new front derraileur.

Anyone here have a 9 speed, triple Shimano Ultegra/Dura Ace braze on for sale?

ed073

It's more relevant to sqautting and DLs. Bench is a fully supported lift....all tris, shoulders and pecs.

Powerlifters use a lot of back arch and extreme techniques, but these are guys moving 500lbs+

HDTVKSS

back arch is considered bad yes?

ed073

for 99% of lifters, yes.

Pinch shoulder-blades together on the bench for a stable platform. Bar should come down to ~nipple line.

Thylacine

Geez, I have a little sleep in and I have to wade through 2 pages of drivel! *gack*

Existence, yes, the Tephra CTi is an amalgam of Carbon and Ti. Is it worth the upcharge over the Ti? I think it will give the best ride eva or I wouldn't introduce it to the top of the range. If I didn't think it was an improvement over straight Ti, I wouldn't make it.

Of course, nobody 'needs' anything more than a double butted cromoly bike with 105, but it sure is nice

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How excellent was the tour last night! I stayed up and watched the whole thing and it was totally riveting.

Menchov, Landis and Leipheimer looked very strong but it's early days yet. Everyone was still feeling the water but the war of attrition made for great TV.

The tour has finally begun! YESSSSS!

climbo

great to watch for sure, except I fell asleep on the beanbag at climb #3 and woke up at 2am to the world weather.