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    Schwinn year and model unknown

    I went on Vintage Schwinn Bikes - The guide to old Schwinns and plugged in my serial number. Come up as 05/01/1958. Then went on Angelfire: Welcome to Angelfire and their date code tool said somewhere in th 70s. The serial # is on the lower portionof the headtube. I submitted pics to see if soneone can tell me how to determine year and also model. Please help
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    Im tossed up between the corvette, tiger, speedster, and wasp.

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    At a minimum, that fork is much much newer than the dates you posted. Like from 1995 or newer. Likely the whole bike is modern. I think you're looking at a modern bike that emulates the vintage style.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
    At a minimum, that fork is much much newer than the dates you posted. Like from 1995 or newer. Likely the whole bike is modern. I think you're looking at a modern bike that emulates the vintage style.

    The frame is an older Schwinn. From 1970-1979 the serial numbers were on the bottom front of the head tube. The fork, however, is not original. In the 70s the forks were the solid forged blade, with a lot of rake.

    OP, if you go to the link below, you can determine the year and month it was made. It wont tell you the model though, and there really isn't a way to determine that unless the bike is all original.

    http://www.re-cycle.com/History/Schw...nB_Serial.aspx
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    I dont believe anything on the frame besides the crank and handlebars are original. The forks im told are from a bmx bike.
    The serial number is on the lower head tube. Like i said ive been on a couple different sites and getting mixed answers. Is there not tell tell signs to helpout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by emontoya909 View Post
    I dont believe anything on the frame besides the crank and handlebars are original. The forks im told are from a bmx bike.
    The serial number is on the lower head tube. Like i said ive been on a couple different sites and getting mixed answers. Is there not tell tell signs to helpout?
    Did you use the link I provided? The serial number location tells us what decade it came from. Some were on the BB, some on the rear dropouts, etc. Your bike is a 70s bike. If you want to know the month and year, go to the site I recommended.

    Identifying the model is impossible because Schwinn would make many different models, all starting with the same frame. They'd just add different features and accessories to create the different models.


    If you know the year, you could look at the old catalogs and determine which "possible names" your bike once had.

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    I looked at the site but it stops at 69 pretty much. It does say though that in 70 and 71 is when they moved it from the rear drop down to the head tube. So the site that told me it was a 50s was wrong. So I'm looking at a 70s bike. Now the hard part will be determining the model. I thank you all for your help and feedback. Anything else you can tell me would be appreciated. Such as once I pin point the yr I would like to start looking for the original parts that go on this yr and model bike. Make it more original. Where are some good places to check?


    Serial number starts with DU.

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    I think

    I have its brother from another mother, I haven't listed it yet here, but it will be in the market place here for shortly, as soon as I could leave the side of the road waiting for the Fed Ex truck. If it is not correct for me to do this, please remove my post. I jus have not gotten around to listing everything properly and feel like the OP might really appreciate this. thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katiesmalls View Post
    I have its brother from another mother
    Wow that one does look just like it. Anything you can help with or ur getting knowledge along with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emontoya909 View Post

    Serial number starts with DU.
    Something is wrong here. Post a CLEAR pic of the serial number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
    Something is wrong here. Post a CLEAR pic of the serial number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emontoya909 View Post
    "T" was the last letter used by the Chicago factory. It was code for 1982. "U" would seem like a 1983 bike, but they closed the factory in 1982. So, the bike may be a Taiwan Schwinn. That's the best guess I cam muster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
    "T" was the last letter used by the Chicago factory. It was code for 1982. "U" would seem like a 1983 bike, but they closed the factory in 1982. So, the bike may be a Taiwan Schwinn. That's the best guess I cam muster.
    Shoot. That's not the answer I wanted to hear. I was hoping on rebuilding something vintage. Thanks everyone.

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    Just a quick story, not exactly related but about Schwinn. Right around 81-82 they gave minority socially distressed low income individuals in Chicago a work place in Schwinn. Similar to Harley Davidson, and other American Companies, basically in a nut shell, jobs were given to people, who had no prior experience in that field, in exchange for Govt tax benefits. Anyway, right around that time the Continentals/Varsitys and Collegiates use to come in a long box with the front wheel already attached. About a week or so after the first wave of new workers started in the Chicago factory, I yanked on as you had to, be able to get the bike out of the long box, the top tube. I will never forget the Black Continental, that when I went to pull it out of the cardboard box THE ENTIRE WELDED TOP TUBE CAME OUT INSTEAD, LEAVING THE REST OF THE FRAME IN THE BOX. I knew right then and here even as a kid there was no more, the end, of American quality control, at least as far as Schwinn was concerned. Within a year the factory closed and their stickers started to read Schwinn Distributorship, not Schwinn Manufacture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emontoya909 View Post
    I submitted pics to see if soneone can tell me how to determine year and also model. Please help
    The DUxxxxxx serial number indicates the frame was built in April 1983, if the headbadge was present it would have a 4-digit stamp indicating the day the bike was built. From the serial number I can tell this is an '83 Cruiser, and from the serial number pic where you sanded off the paint I can tell it was originally black like the one shown in the 1983 "Family Bicycles" catalog that year:

    1983 Family Bikes p05 (Large).jpg

    As you can see note that the BMX style fork was original on the Cruiser for '83.

    Quote Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
    "T" was the last letter used by the Chicago factory. It was code for 1982. "U" would seem like a 1983 bike, but they closed the factory in 1982. So, the bike may be a Taiwan Schwinn. That's the best guess I cam muster.
    The Chicago factory closed in mid-'83. At some point in the process the production of the electro-forged (EF) framed bikes was taken over by Murray in Lawrenceburg TN. This continued through 1985 when all remaining EF framed bikes were finally discontinued. Since '83 was a transition year, EF framed bikes that year could have been built either by Schwinn or Murray. You can tell a Schwinn vs. Murray frame by the bottom bracket construction/welding. The Schwinn EF bottom bracket shells were unique with a thick seam on the bottom as well as slag rings on the chainstays. The Murray built bikes have completely smooth welded bottom bracket shells that look noticeably different. According to the BB shell seen in the 2nd pic in the first post, the '83 Cruiser in question here was built by Murray for Schwinn.

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    Chain rng is Huffy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metacortex View Post
    The DUxxxxxx serial number indicates the frame was built in April 1983, if the headbadge was present it would have a 4-digit stamp indicating the day the bike was built. From the serial number I can tell this is an '83 Cruiser, and from the serial number pic where you sanded off the paint I can tell it was originally black like the one shown in the 1983 "Family Bicycles" catalog that year:

    1983 Family Bikes p05 (Large).jpg

    As you can see note that the BMX style fork was original on the Cruiser for '83.



    The Chicago factory closed in mid-'83. At some point in the process the production of the electro-forged (EF) framed bikes was taken over by Murray in Lawrenceburg TN. This continued through 1985 when all remaining EF framed bikes were finally discontinued. Since '83 was a transition year, EF framed bikes that year could have been built either by Schwinn or Murray. You can tell a Schwinn vs. Murray frame by the bottom bracket construction/welding. The Schwinn EF bottom bracket shells were unique with a thick seam on the bottom as well as slag rings on the chainstays. The Murray built bikes have completely smooth welded bottom bracket shells that look noticeably different. According to the BB shell seen in the 2nd pic in the first post, the '83 Cruiser in question here was built by Murray for Schwinn.

    BB weld seam (Medium).JPGChainstay slag rings (Medium).jpg
    Thanks for the detailed scoop.

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    I have the same bike with the DU prefix which the book does not list. My bike has a springer front end and original black paint. The curious thing is the original head badge is present with the post Chicago stamping on it. This stamping was 4 digits that reflected the month, day, and year of manufacture with the last number being the last digit of the year leaving you to guess the decade. Mine ends in 3 so the only thing I can figure is that it was one of the last frames manufactured at Chicago in 1983 but assembled at the new plant and given the new numbered head badge. I think this makes it rare and collectable but without real honest to goodness proof it's only conjecture. I will keep it in my collection anyway, ride it occasionally, and let my descendents worry about what it's worth.

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