At what point do you say "Buy a new bike"
04-20-05, 09:45 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 73
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
At what point do you say "Buy a new bike"
I had some people ask me to look at their bikes. The bikes are a matched pair. They are at least 15 years old and they have been left outside for the last 7 years. They are/were cromoly frames, have cantilever brakes, Kenda tires, no quick release, thumbshifters, Shimano SIS derailleur, 6 speed cassette/freewheel. They said they bought them at a bike shop. The brand on the down tube is LEADER. I have never heard of this brand.
Anyway, as soon as I saw the bikes one of which had multiple spokes broken on both wheels ( I think because their teenaged sons had been doing jumps with it) I figured go out and buy new bikes. The drive trains were seized with the chain and rear cogs so rusted the links would not bend. I managed to get the rusted chain apart and then soaked it overnight but it is finished. So I am plannning to tell these people to go out and buy new hybrid bikes. They are in their mid forties and do not really ride much. Jsut the occasional jaunt. So I figure they should be able to get a good deal on a pair of bikes. BTW when I took the seat of the bikes and flipped the biek over dirty brown water came pouring out. Which would indicate that the seat tube was full of water.
I was wondering at what point some of you may have resurrected bikes. At what point do you just say, "Gee go out and buy some new bikes"
Anyway, as soon as I saw the bikes one of which had multiple spokes broken on both wheels ( I think because their teenaged sons had been doing jumps with it) I figured go out and buy new bikes. The drive trains were seized with the chain and rear cogs so rusted the links would not bend. I managed to get the rusted chain apart and then soaked it overnight but it is finished. So I am plannning to tell these people to go out and buy new hybrid bikes. They are in their mid forties and do not really ride much. Jsut the occasional jaunt. So I figure they should be able to get a good deal on a pair of bikes. BTW when I took the seat of the bikes and flipped the biek over dirty brown water came pouring out. Which would indicate that the seat tube was full of water.
I was wondering at what point some of you may have resurrected bikes. At what point do you just say, "Gee go out and buy some new bikes"
04-20-05, 10:07 PM
#2
juneeaa memba!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: boogled up in...Idaho!
Posts: 5,632
Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
If the bike is a '70's Masi or Colnago Super, or a first edition Ritchey (or even an early stump, maybe) we should suffer greviously to save it, as a work of art, as a piece of our history. but probably not a leader. it would cost more to respoke the wheels than both bikes are worth.
04-20-05, 11:41 PM
#3
Employee
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA, USA, Earth
Posts: 250
Bikes: Bridgestone 450, A Camera, 46x18 Fixed Gear, Homebrew Tandem
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
It was my impression that Leader makes decent frames. https://www.leaderbikeusa.com/ but the website (of the frame that I know) say Leader Bike USA has only been around since 2000, but perhaps Leader has been around before or building longer or your estimate of age is off.
If the exterior paint is in decent shape and the frames actually ride nicely, they seem like singlespeed/fixed gear candidates.
Let the folks know the costs of fixing the bikes up nice (and benefits), and also let them know the costs of a new ride (and benefits). Then let the customer decide.
If the exterior paint is in decent shape and the frames actually ride nicely, they seem like singlespeed/fixed gear candidates.
Let the folks know the costs of fixing the bikes up nice (and benefits), and also let them know the costs of a new ride (and benefits). Then let the customer decide.
04-21-05, 12:13 AM
#4
Marathon Cyclist
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Perth - Western Australia
Posts: 1,779
Bikes: Road Bike / Mountain Bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Is there any chance that they'll treat a pair of new bikes any better than the existing bikes?
I'd hate to see them buy new bikes only to have them put outside in the weather again.
I'd hate to see them buy new bikes only to have them put outside in the weather again.
__________________
04-21-05, 09:32 AM
#6
feros ferio
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 21,796
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1392 Post(s)
Liked 1,324 Times
in
836 Posts
The first and last NEW bicycle I bought was my Nishiki, in March 1971. I have bought, sold, given away, and received numerous USED bikes, however.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
04-21-05, 06:54 PM
#7
B-b-b-b-b-b-bicicle Rider
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Racine WI
Posts: 749
Bikes: 1997, stumpjumper S-works hardtail, Medici, Giant Perigee(track dropouts and fixed gear), Columbia twosome, schwinn twinn, '67 raleigh 5 speed internal hub, Old triumph 3 speed, old BSA 3-speed, schwinn Racer 2spd kickback, Broken raysport criteriu
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times
in
3 Posts
the good news is that if you can get most of the rust out, then the frame will be lighter than it ever was! it's like custom butting.
04-21-05, 07:19 PM
#8
cab horn
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 28,353
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 26 Times
in
19 Posts
Originally Posted by Smorgasbord
It was my impression that Leader makes decent frames. https://www.leaderbikeusa.com/ but the website (of the frame that I know) say Leader Bike USA has only been around since 2000, but perhaps Leader has been around before or building longer or your estimate of age is off.
If the exterior paint is in decent shape and the frames actually ride nicely, they seem like singlespeed/fixed gear candidates.
Let the folks know the costs of fixing the bikes up nice (and benefits), and also let them know the costs of a new ride (and benefits). Then let the customer decide.
If the exterior paint is in decent shape and the frames actually ride nicely, they seem like singlespeed/fixed gear candidates.
Let the folks know the costs of fixing the bikes up nice (and benefits), and also let them know the costs of a new ride (and benefits). Then let the customer decide.
04-21-05, 09:57 PM
#9
One Tough Cookie.
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Hartford, CT
Posts: 265
Bikes: Too many and not ENOUGH!
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
THOSE bikes, unfortunately, ought to be sent to "bike heaven"!
However, I would not recommend that these "bike abusers" buy anything "fancy". In fact, if you can find good, USED, bikes to fit them, it would be the best solution. Preferably with aluminum frames!! (No rust!)
(Imagine, keeping a bike OUTSIDE, in the weather...ignored...for years! How cruel can you be???
)
However, I would not recommend that these "bike abusers" buy anything "fancy". In fact, if you can find good, USED, bikes to fit them, it would be the best solution. Preferably with aluminum frames!! (No rust!)
(Imagine, keeping a bike OUTSIDE, in the weather...ignored...for years! How cruel can you be???
)
__________________
A bad day on the bike is better than a good day at work!!
My discussion board, another resource for the "utility" and commuter cyclist: "Two Wheeled Commuter: The Everyday Cyclist"
A bad day on the bike is better than a good day at work!!
My discussion board, another resource for the "utility" and commuter cyclist: "Two Wheeled Commuter: The Everyday Cyclist"
04-22-05, 01:07 AM
#11
I drink your MILKSHAKE
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Posts: 15,061
Bikes: 2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Say it now, don't waste any more time on those bikes.
__________________
04-22-05, 01:32 AM
#12
Employee
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA, USA, Earth
Posts: 250
Bikes: Bridgestone 450, A Camera, 46x18 Fixed Gear, Homebrew Tandem
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by operator
Leader has been around way before 2000.
04-22-05, 07:59 AM
#13
Listen to me
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lexus Texas
Posts: 2,788
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
One of the members of the Ohio City Bike Co-op is a Leader distributor.
PM me if you want his e-mail address.
Enjoy
PM me if you want his e-mail address.
Enjoy
04-22-05, 09:38 AM
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 60
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jonny49
At what point do you just say, "Gee go out and buy some new bikes"
04-22-05, 10:43 AM
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA
Posts: 273
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jonny49
At what point do you just say, "Gee go out and buy some new bikes"
04-26-05, 08:11 PM
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 73
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
So they did decide to go out and buy new bikes. They let me keep the old bikes. They will be good practice. I have already begun disssembling them. I just need to get a crank puller to get the cranks off and whatever other bottom bracket tools I may need.
04-27-05, 02:03 AM
#17
blacksheep the blemish
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Portland/Greendale
Posts: 1,063
Bikes: 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur (manufactured by panasonic), Italvega Super Speciale (fixed, primary ride now), Kona 2004 JTS 10 spd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I say they should be resurrected. But after being melted down and recycled first. A piece of junk bike is one thing, a rusted piece of junk bike is just too much to even bother looking at. I'd say break it down so you can recycle that crap.
04-27-05, 02:15 AM
#18
Lets Ride
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Biking Country, USA
Posts: 1,102
Bikes: Trek 1200, Lemond Sarthe, Gary Fisher Tass
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
At what point do you just say, "Gee go out and buy some new bikes"
Whenever there is room in the garage for a new one. - Oh but that isn't really what this thread is all about then is it?
Whenever there is room in the garage for a new one. - Oh but that isn't really what this thread is all about then is it?
