Vintage Raleigh

Hi all was at a studebaker club meeting as a guest, (the guy down the road has a 55 hawk), anyways there was a presso from these guys selling rust removal & degreaser, non toxic no fumes, can drink it etc. bought some degreaser and it worked better than petrol and citrus based stuff so decided to buy some more. Asked the guy about the rust remover, and it won't affect anything except rust , you can dip your whole bike in a bath of it and it won't take off paint, decals, has no effect on alloy or plastic etc etc so I bought some.

Before this I bought some rust removal acid from the hardware but was told it will turn alloy green, remove paint etc so wasn't looking forward to the process, especially my steel caged pedals mated to the alloy body.

So one pedal has been in a bath for 2 hours and the rust is mostly gone, the other bike stuff nuts bolts springs et al are in zip lock bags with enough to cover it all.

Too easy I'm sitting with a drop sheet in the livingroom with bike bits everywhere and it's doing all the work, apparently it'll last 4-6mths before it starts rusting again.

Cheers Matthew

cny-bikeman

I'm glad you found a solution you enjoy so much. The name of the product would be helpful, but there are multiple products that offer such qualities. I first used one of them over 25 years ago.

mozad655

Next time just use some Coca-Cola. It is very good at removing rust.

Vintage Raleigh

It's called ultraone. does anyone ha an opinion on this product. I'm sure there's dozens similar. Would rather drink coke or Pepsi

SkyDog75

I've used oxalic acid, which is sold as wood bleach, much the same way. Mixed with water, a twelve ounce tub ($6) will fill a kiddie pool. Submerge rusted parts overnight, remove, rinse, and dry. At this concentration, paint and decals are unaffected. I've never had a problem with plastics.

Pros: cheap, easy, works really well.

Cons: will attack galvanizing (spokes) and black oxide finishes (headsets).

For smaller parts, I've been using Evapo-Rust, which is marketed similarly to Ultra One's Safest Rust Remover. It works really well, is supposedly non-toxic, and is carried at a lot of retailers like Advance Auto, Harbor Freight Tools, and even Amazon.

JerrySTL

As a former owner of a 1962 Studebaker Hawk GT, I'd be afraid of using a rust remover on it. There wouldn't be much of a car left afterwards!

Vintage Raleigh

Rust removal update - seems to be working fine, not all rust removed, maybe it needs a bit longer on some parts, but huge improvement.


Some of the directions make me think it's oxalic acid (doesn't harm anything but the rust, works better warmed up etc.) but-
oxalic acid is an acid and this says it not
oxalic acid will burn your skin and this won't - you can drink it etc
So I don't know, been madly googling to try and find out what's in it because of course it's not listed on the label, be interested to find out though

Vintage Raleigh

Love it

SkyDog75

I'm pretty sure oxalic acid would be listed on the product's MSDS (material data safety sheet) if it contained any, but it's not on there. As far as acidity, the MSDS says the stuff has a pH around 6.0, which means it's about as acidic as weak coffee.

Pretty common for chemical reactions.

It might not be the most toxic stuff ever, but I wouldn't drink it. It's a chelator, which means it binds to metals and suspends them in solution. There are metals your body needs, like zinc and iron. Let's not drink this stuff to see if it'll remove some amount of those.

It seems to be a similar product to Evapo-Rust, and I've read suggestions that the chelating agent in Evapo-Rust might be ethylenediaminetetraacetate (EDTA). It's a strong chelator and relatively non-toxic, and it can be purchased cheaply enough by manufacturers to sell at the price point of Evapo-Rust and Ultra One Safest Rust Remover.

rmfnla

As a recovered Jaguar nut (redundant?) I can only snicker...

SparkPlug

DO NOT DRINK OXALIC ACID

Or for that matter ingest any substance which you do not know the ingredients of.

MSDS OXALIC ACID

https://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926346



As someone else has mentioned it also interferes with nutrient absorption and it is suggested elsewhere that it promotes the production of kidney stones.

Amongst other things.. Wear Gloves, Glasses and store in a safe place.

speedy25

Ok, since toxicity is still an issue, how come nobody mentioned electrolysis. Put your parts in a plastic tub with a solution of washing soda. Add an electrode and give it 12 volts.

What I have seen is pretty impressive, but I havent had any rusty parts I needed to recover lately.

-SP