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Old 07-26-15, 05:33 PM
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I have a Shimano 600 hub with a 6 speed cassette , vintage 86' Will a Dura Ace 7400 cassette and freewheel fit ? Or will the Dura Ace cogs fit the 600 freewheel ? Thanks .
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OK- do you have a cassette or a freewheel? They are not the same: Freewheel or Cassette?

If both are freewheel then the parts are 100% interchangeable. If both are cassette, then the splined cogs are interchangeable but the outer (threaded) cog is not. If one is cassette and the other freewheel, nothing is interchangeable.
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Sorry about the confusion , I should have said 6 speed gear cluster . But I think you answered my question , a Dura Ace freewheel and 6 speed gear cluster will fit my 600 freewheel hub . Thanks .

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Originally Posted by markwesti
I should have said 6 speed gear cluster.
Pardon my nitpicking of terminology, but be careful with this. The number of gears in the back still cannot determine if it is a freewheel or a cassette. A freewheel threads onto the wheel hub. A cassette has cogs that slide onto splines which are incorporated into the wheel's freehub. More often than not, many people misplace the terms of freehub and freewheel quite regularly.

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Originally Posted by markwesti
I have a Shimano 600 hub with a 6 speed cassette , vintage 86' Will a Dura Ace 7400 cassette and freewheel fit ? Or will the Dura Ace cogs fit the 600 freewheel ? Thanks .
6-speed cassette - this means Uniglide cogs. 5 of the 6 Dura-Ace cassette cogs will fit on your Uniglide hub. The outer Dura-Ace cassette cog is unique and will not fit the diameter of your freehub body.

Dura-Ace cassette cogs fitting a 600 freewheel body? That's tough. I've done a lot of Franken-modding of bike parts, but I've never attempted this. It would require a heavy duty metal press or perhaps an industrial-strength laser cutter. The cassette cogs have a smaller inside diameter than freewheel cogs, so you'd have to remove a lot of material.

Fitting a freewheel on a cassette freehub body: that is tough too. I've never tried this. Interestingly, you can spin a freewheel onto the outside threads of the old Uniglide cassette freehub body, but I don't understand why you'd want to do this. The axle overhang would be excessive - at least 3 inches on the drive side! Something unique I guess. You could then fit perhaps 4 cogs on the cassette body, and as another 7 cogs on the freewheel. 11-speed system!

Anyone want to mock this up and take a picture?
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Originally Posted by markwesti
Sorry about the confusion , I should have said 6 speed gear cluster . But I think you answered my question , a Dura Ace freewheel and 6 speed gear cluster will fit my 600 freewheel hub . Thanks .
Ummm, like Flying said, you still haven't determined if both are freewheel or cassette. "Cluster" is meaningless in bicycle vernacular.
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