Older Deore M510 9-speed vs. New Acera 9-speed components. Any difference?
11-13-15, 10:30 PM
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Older Deore M510 9-speed vs. New Acera 9-speed components. Any difference?
How would these components compare to each other. Would the new/current Acera 9-speed bits be just as good or even better than the older Deore (assuming NOS) M510 9-speed bits? I know component technology advances every so often, but I was wondering by how much. Could the current Acera be rebranded older Deore? Thanks!
OLD 9-speed:
Deore SL-M510 shifter pods
Deore FD-M510 front derailleur
Deore RD-M510 rear derailleur
Deore M510 crankset sq. taper
VS.
Current For 2016 9-speed:
Acera shifter pods
Acera front
Alivio rear derailleur
Acera crankset
OLD 9-speed:
Deore SL-M510 shifter pods
Deore FD-M510 front derailleur
Deore RD-M510 rear derailleur
Deore M510 crankset sq. taper
VS.
Current For 2016 9-speed:
Acera shifter pods
Acera front
Alivio rear derailleur
Acera crankset
11-13-15, 10:48 PM
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don't have any first hand knowledge of M510 Deore AND 2016 Acera (although i do ride on some old Acera and some even older Deore components) ... doubt if many have, but here's an article that implies that lower end shimano MTB parts benefit from the same trickle down improvements that road components do.
superficially speaking, they (the Acera) look pretty good to me. it wouldn't surprise me if they exceeded the quality of at lease some, if not all, of the vintage Deore stuff.
superficially speaking, they (the Acera) look pretty good to me. it wouldn't surprise me if they exceeded the quality of at lease some, if not all, of the vintage Deore stuff.
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The technology moves down the lineup but the quality does not. Lower parts have more plastic and folded steel pieces and less forged steel and aluminum; and less durable finishes. That said, they will be compatible and they will still last a long time.
The new Alivio RD-M4000 is a Shadow type more like the previous generation Deore RD-M593, which sticks out less and rated up to a 36 cog.
You can look up a lot of things at https://si.shimano.com
The new Alivio RD-M4000 is a Shadow type more like the previous generation Deore RD-M593, which sticks out less and rated up to a 36 cog.
You can look up a lot of things at https://si.shimano.com
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11-14-15, 12:13 AM
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I remember the 510 Deore. Had a Giant Wasp with it.
If you're referring to the M390 Acera, I think you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference at all, especially in shifting performance.
The new Acera crank is Octalink (V2), whereas the old 510 Deore is square taper. If you splurge for the Alivio crank, that is now Hollowtech II.
If you're referring to the M390 Acera, I think you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference at all, especially in shifting performance.
The new Acera crank is Octalink (V2), whereas the old 510 Deore is square taper. If you splurge for the Alivio crank, that is now Hollowtech II.
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How thinly can you slice the baloney?
Even the cheapest Shimano Tourney components work pretty darn good. I've often said that i have to move up or down 2 group levels (maybe even more) before I can detect any performance difference whatever. Today I'm frankly more into the aesthetics of the higher group sets than the performance. I prefer the less bulky-looking components.
Even the cheapest Shimano Tourney components work pretty darn good. I've often said that i have to move up or down 2 group levels (maybe even more) before I can detect any performance difference whatever. Today I'm frankly more into the aesthetics of the higher group sets than the performance. I prefer the less bulky-looking components.
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I remember the 510 Deore. Had a Giant Wasp with it.
If you're referring to the M390 Acera, I think you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference at all, especially in shifting performance.
The new Acera crank is Octalink (V2), whereas the old 510 Deore is square taper. If you splurge for the Alivio crank, that is now Hollowtech II.
If you're referring to the M390 Acera, I think you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference at all, especially in shifting performance.
The new Acera crank is Octalink (V2), whereas the old 510 Deore is square taper. If you splurge for the Alivio crank, that is now Hollowtech II.
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11-14-15, 12:52 PM
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11-14-15, 04:11 PM
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I believe Shimano does the same thing with offering both a square taper and Octalink option within some Altus/Acera/Alivio generations.
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