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Old 11-19-15, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Plimogz
Hmmm... I did not know that such a thing existed. I very much like Velocity Rims, are their loose ball [rear] hubs any good? How is the freehub body and bearing race durability? forged shell? etc...

A bit more than I spent for Shimano, but then again, I do not buy expensive Shimano. Are Velocity Hubs made in the USA (or Australia -- wherever Velocity rims are made?)
Sorry I do not know. Velocity is good at responding to questions. I have an unused set of black 36H/40H 100mm/130mm Velocity cartridge bearing road hubs that I got off eBay for the price of a Velocity rear hub. They are built into wheels with Velocity Aero (front) and Dyad (rear) rims and Wheelsmith DB14 spokes. I planning on build up an '83 Trek 620 with them (a previous owner had opened it to 130mm), the project is on hold due to other priorities right now.
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Originally Posted by rmfnla
And reducing weight in the freehub doesn't even provide much benefit...
Agreed. The main reason why people care is that they tend to judge wheelsets on their weight. Much more important than the hub weights though is the weight of the rim/tire/tubes. Hub weight has almost no effect on performance, other than making the entire bike heavier.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I figured I would go higher up than Sora, but was curious to see how it compared.
105 usually used to mark the point where you got the best bang for buck, but now Shimano's brought back RX100's spot in the lineup with Tiagra: same shaped stuff as 105, bit cheaper. Sora is like RSX - cheaper still, and uglified.
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I agree with @Kimmo, because, as I understand it, as you move up the line (in hubs), the races and cones are more precisely ground and made of harder material. However, I've been impressed by the hubs in Shimano's lower levels. They stand up to use well. They are good enough for pretty much everyone. Find the sweet spot where price is reasonable, right before it jumps up if you move up one level. That may be at Tiagra or 105.
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Originally Posted by Plimogz
Hmmm... I did not know that such a thing existed. I very much like Velocity Rims, are their loose ball [rear] hubs any good? How is the freehub body and bearing race durability? forged shell? etc...

It is a bit more than I spent for Shimano, but then again, I do not buy expensive Shimano. Are Velocity Hubs made in the USA (or Australia -- wherever Velocity rims are made?)
I just had a look at the link; it looks like a copy of a Shimano hub, probably about the same quality as 105 or Ultegra. Funny that the Ultegra-grade steel cassette body as a spare is $2 less than the whole hub...

But yeah, Shimano has the scale to offer the same quality a fair bit cheaper; the extra money buys you a boutique name and Velocity's range of colours.

AFAIK it's an American operation these days.
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Originally Posted by FastJake
Cartridge bearings are great - until you have to replace them. And you will, eventually. If you use the bike. Without the expensive tools it can be either a major PITA or impossible. You also have to buy the bearings themselves, which are more expensive than loose balls.

I personally see nothing to be gained by cartridge bearing hubs and an additional service hassle when they need it. Since the 105 hub is cheaper, all the more reason to go with it.

To answer the question I think you're asking, you're not "missing out" on anything by using loose ball hubs.
Based on my experience replacing cartridge bearings was easy and cheap though admittedly more costly than a few balls. The only tools you need are a hammer, punch, and a socket to protect the new bearing when driving it in. The benefit is that no adjustments are needed.
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