Square Taper BB Creaking
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Square Taper BB Creaking
So I'm using a square taper bottom bracket and crank which have been used for a little under 6 months (March - August / Past 2 weeks) and I fully installed it making sure to properly grease all the threads and tighten the BB/cranks, I even greased the spindles which I now have cleaned of grease. However I noticed that the bottom bracket was creaking every time I did low cadence pedaling in a high gear/uphill (this is when I could audibly hear the creak). Coming from an Octalink BB I never had issues with BB creaks untill I started noticing deformity in the crank interface. My square taper cranks seem to have some deformity, but it's not completely warped like I have done in the past to crank arms (usually the non-drive side)
Like I stated, I only have this problem with the square taper bottom bracket. I am confident that I installed everything properly and I am using a plastic non-drive side cup vs the metal one that I was using. Pedal threads and crank bolt threads have been properly greased as well. The only possible cause I feel is the crank interface, however I can't be 100% sure after diagnosing literally everything regarding my BB.
Like I stated, I only have this problem with the square taper bottom bracket. I am confident that I installed everything properly and I am using a plastic non-drive side cup vs the metal one that I was using. Pedal threads and crank bolt threads have been properly greased as well. The only possible cause I feel is the crank interface, however I can't be 100% sure after diagnosing literally everything regarding my BB.
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A few answers here:
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A few answers here:
Bottom bracket creaking
Bottom bracket creaking
I had a clicking noise coming from my headset that I got rid of by re-greasing the headsset bearings - That's gone.
Checked my seat/seat post - re-greased that - no problem.
Like I said before I honestly feel like this is an isolated issue with square taper BBs. Oddly enough I rode a Specialized Sequoia from my LBS with a square taper and that creaked when I pedaled as well. Sometimes I feel like due to my weight (~360lbs) I put more pressure on those bbs causing creaks. When I switched to Octalink I never had BB creaks, only pedal creaks and clicks from a loosening crank arm.
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DarKris, If the creaking sound is surely coming from the BB I'd try a metal NDS adapter. Your weight and probably leg strength maybe causing the plastic adapter to deform under load. This is the easiest and least expensive possible fix that I can think of.
Just for the sake of your knees, I suggest down shifting more for your climbs.
Brad
Just for the sake of your knees, I suggest down shifting more for your climbs.
Brad
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DarKris, If the creaking sound is surely coming from the BB I'd try a metal NDS adapter. Your weight and probably leg strength maybe causing the plastic adapter to deform under load. This is the easiest and least expensive possible fix that I can think of.
Just for the sake of your knees, I suggest down shifting more for your climbs.
Brad
Just for the sake of your knees, I suggest down shifting more for your climbs.
Brad
The plastic cup was also from my Octalink bottom bracket, of which I have not had any issues with creaking.
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As I stated, I was having the creaking issue with the metal NDS cup in the BB Shell. Even though I greased the cups on both sides, I thought that because the teflon coating on the metal cup wore away that it was causing the creak. I switched to the plastic one because I thought that because it was plastic on metal that the creak would go away.
The plastic cup was also from my Octalink bottom bracket, of which I have not had any issues with creaking.
The plastic cup was also from my Octalink bottom bracket, of which I have not had any issues with creaking.
You might try a single wrap of teflon tape on the taper. If this stops the creaking it could mean that a crank arm's taper is deformed, look for cracks at the inside of the crank arm's taper area before using the teflon tape. You also might consider a crank set that uses an external BB.
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So I'm using a square taper bottom bracket and crank which have been used for a little under 6 months (March - August / Past 2 weeks) and I fully installed it making sure to properly grease all the threads and tighten the BB/cranks, I even greased the spindles which I now have cleaned of grease. However I noticed that the bottom bracket was creaking every time I did low cadence pedaling in a high gear/uphill (this is when I could audibly hear the creak). Coming from an Octalink BB I never had issues with BB creaks untill I started noticing deformity in the crank interface. My square taper cranks seem to have some deformity, but it's not completely warped like I have done in the past to crank arms (usually the non-drive side)
Like I stated, I only have this problem with the square taper bottom bracket. I am confident that I installed everything properly and I am using a plastic non-drive side cup vs the metal one that I was using. Pedal threads and crank bolt threads have been properly greased as well. The only possible cause I feel is the crank interface, however I can't be 100% sure after diagnosing literally everything regarding my BB.
Like I stated, I only have this problem with the square taper bottom bracket. I am confident that I installed everything properly and I am using a plastic non-drive side cup vs the metal one that I was using. Pedal threads and crank bolt threads have been properly greased as well. The only possible cause I feel is the crank interface, however I can't be 100% sure after diagnosing literally everything regarding my BB.
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Sorry, I must have confused the two BBs.
You might try a single wrap of teflon tape on the taper. If this stops the creaking it could mean that a crank arm's taper is deformed, look for cracks at the inside of the crank arm's taper area before using the teflon tape. You also might consider a crank set that uses an external BB.
Brad
You might try a single wrap of teflon tape on the taper. If this stops the creaking it could mean that a crank arm's taper is deformed, look for cracks at the inside of the crank arm's taper area before using the teflon tape. You also might consider a crank set that uses an external BB.
Brad
EDIT: I misread this. My chainrings/crank arm are one piece. No bolts
I'm a big guy too, and have had to replace my BB on my Crosstrail a bit over a year ago. I've noticed with my new square taper BB, every now and then I have to re-torque everything. I remember reading some posts somewhere that this is king of a problem with square taper needing to be occasionally re-torqued.
Last edited by DarKris; 02-20-17 at 01:37 PM.
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My creaky problems were all solved with removing the crank arms, cleaning them and the square on the BB well, and reassembling with never seize.
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(I have no opinion here. I've done both. I am also quite good at tuning out noises that would cost me more to go after than the rewards justify. After all, it's all about riding the bike.)
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