How to select new wheel set?
06-13-17, 12:51 PM
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" Posted by: AlexCyclistRoch
On: 06-11-17 06:06 AM
BTW, I've SEEN those welds on the Denali frame. Big, lumpy machine welds. At least those on my Cannondale have been ground smooth. So you're a welder and are impressed by such welds? What do you weld for a living? Guardrails? "
Mr. Engineer, all welds are made using some type of welder machine(duh!), as far as i know only Superman is capable of welding with out a welder machine. I think you meant 'robot welds'. Well, they are not. Frame is welded by s person using a welder machine, or by 'hand'. Those welds are beautiful, and don't need tobe grinded. Obviously you are not familiar with the Denali, following your hatred mind, maybe you confusing with the real cheap walmart bikes,those have some ugly welds.
Stop comparing your Cannondale to my bike. That Cannondale its awesome bike, dont feel threatened by my Denali,or are you unsure of it? There is nothing wrong with it. Don't need to reafirm others about your bike.If something is wrong with that bike is you. And you are showing your true colors.
Engineers are creative and optimistic minded. Im not an Engineer, but im happy doing what i do. Unlike you, that will take any opportunity to dump your trash in others people's yards if they let you. The only reason you join this thread is to talk thrash, with out adding anything positive. I feel bad for you..must be hard living like that.
" Posted by: AlexCyclistRoch
On: 06-11-17 06:06 AM
BTW, I've SEEN those welds on the Denali frame. Big, lumpy machine welds. At least those on my Cannondale have been ground smooth. So you're a welder and are impressed by such welds? What do you weld for a living? Guardrails? "
Mr. Engineer, all welds are made using some type of welder machine(duh!), as far as i know only Superman is capable of welding with out a welder machine. I think you meant 'robot welds'. Well, they are not. Frame is welded by s person using a welder machine, or by 'hand'. Those welds are beautiful, and don't need tobe grinded. Obviously you are not familiar with the Denali, following your hatred mind, maybe you confusing with the real cheap walmart bikes,those have some ugly welds.
Stop comparing your Cannondale to my bike. That Cannondale its awesome bike, dont feel threatened by my Denali,or are you unsure of it? There is nothing wrong with it. Don't need to reafirm others about your bike.If something is wrong with that bike is you. And you are showing your true colors.
Engineers are creative and optimistic minded. Im not an Engineer, but im happy doing what i do. Unlike you, that will take any opportunity to dump your trash in others people's yards if they let you. The only reason you join this thread is to talk thrash, with out adding anything positive. I feel bad for you..must be hard living like that.
06-13-17, 07:18 PM
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Keep that bike alive Gus. I know where your coming from. You have gathered good info from the responses and can continue having fun on your bike. . I love your line " one day I'll buy a 750 dollar bike" hilarious. BITD, I felt that my UO-8 needed new rims. I was convinced that the steel dimpled rims were the best. I took my hubs to the shop and a few days later, I picked up my new wheels. Problem was, the shop didn't use my hubs. I was bummed. I wanted MY hubs laced to the new rims. I miss that bike. When you get your 500 or 750 or 7000 dollar bike, keep that Denali.
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06-13-17, 10:54 PM
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Gusnova,
If you like the bike, put on some new, or good used, wheels and enjoy it. You are not the first one to upgrade a GMC Denali.
At one time or another we all spend money on something (bike, car, boat, etc.) the rest of the world tells us to just get rid of, but we spend it none-the-less. It personalized it and brings us some joy, and it is not that much money.
John
If you like the bike, put on some new, or good used, wheels and enjoy it. You are not the first one to upgrade a GMC Denali.
At one time or another we all spend money on something (bike, car, boat, etc.) the rest of the world tells us to just get rid of, but we spend it none-the-less. It personalized it and brings us some joy, and it is not that much money.
John
06-13-17, 11:45 PM
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Hello, Mr. Welder. Let me introduce myself; you can call me "Mr. Mechanical Engineer".
FWIW, I spent (as opposed to "spended") $250 on a nice used Cannondale, which had a nice wheelset, with 7-speed cogs. It weighs.....let me take it to the scale......21 lbs. How much does your Denali weigh? I'll wait for your answer later, but I'm betting it's in the neighborhood of 40 lbs.
So, you think that your frameset is "surprisingly good"? Well, for the price, maybe, but let ,me ask you; are the tubes seamed or seamless? Are they butted? Is there internal lugwork under those butt welds? Has it been annealed after welding? Do you even know which grade of aluminum it has (mine is 7075 with a T6 aging, BTW).
So, yes, you can buy a "good" wheelset for this bike, but the junky frame, and all the rest of the components will still be there. It's throwing good money after bad; it's trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear; it's penny-wise and pound-foolish; it may even be like bringing coal to Newcastle. Right now, the major value on your bike is the approximately $20 of aluminum that you'll get at a metal recycler. I doubt you could sell the rest for $10.
Don't waste your money on this bike.
Thank you, and have a nice day!
FWIW, I spent (as opposed to "spended") $250 on a nice used Cannondale, which had a nice wheelset, with 7-speed cogs. It weighs.....let me take it to the scale......21 lbs. How much does your Denali weigh? I'll wait for your answer later, but I'm betting it's in the neighborhood of 40 lbs.
So, you think that your frameset is "surprisingly good"? Well, for the price, maybe, but let ,me ask you; are the tubes seamed or seamless? Are they butted? Is there internal lugwork under those butt welds? Has it been annealed after welding? Do you even know which grade of aluminum it has (mine is 7075 with a T6 aging, BTW).
So, yes, you can buy a "good" wheelset for this bike, but the junky frame, and all the rest of the components will still be there. It's throwing good money after bad; it's trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear; it's penny-wise and pound-foolish; it may even be like bringing coal to Newcastle. Right now, the major value on your bike is the approximately $20 of aluminum that you'll get at a metal recycler. I doubt you could sell the rest for $10.
Don't waste your money on this bike.
Thank you, and have a nice day!
06-13-17, 11:49 PM
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" Posted by: AlexCyclistRoch
On: 06-11-17 06:06 AM
BTW, I've SEEN those welds on the Denali frame. Big, lumpy machine welds. At least those on my Cannondale have been ground smooth. So you're a welder and are impressed by such welds? What do you weld for a living? Guardrails? "
Mr. Engineer, all welds are made using some type of welder machine(duh!), as far as i know only Superman is capable of welding with out a welder machine. I think you meant 'robot welds'. Well, they are not. Frame is welded by s person using a welder machine, or by 'hand'. Those welds are beautiful, and don't need tobe grinded. Obviously you are not familiar with the Denali, following your hatred mind, maybe you confusing with the real cheap walmart bikes,those have some ugly welds.
Stop comparing your Cannondale to my bike. That Cannondale its awesome bike, dont feel threatened by my Denali,or are you unsure of it? There is nothing wrong with it. Don't need to reafirm others about your bike.If something is wrong with that bike is you. And you are showing your true colors.
Engineers are creative and optimistic minded. Im not an Engineer, but im happy doing what i do. Unlike you, that will take any opportunity to dump your trash in others people's yards if they let you. The only reason you join this thread is to talk thrash, with out adding anything positive. I feel bad for you..must be hard living like that.
" Posted by: AlexCyclistRoch
On: 06-11-17 06:06 AM
BTW, I've SEEN those welds on the Denali frame. Big, lumpy machine welds. At least those on my Cannondale have been ground smooth. So you're a welder and are impressed by such welds? What do you weld for a living? Guardrails? "
Mr. Engineer, all welds are made using some type of welder machine(duh!), as far as i know only Superman is capable of welding with out a welder machine. I think you meant 'robot welds'. Well, they are not. Frame is welded by s person using a welder machine, or by 'hand'. Those welds are beautiful, and don't need tobe grinded. Obviously you are not familiar with the Denali, following your hatred mind, maybe you confusing with the real cheap walmart bikes,those have some ugly welds.
Stop comparing your Cannondale to my bike. That Cannondale its awesome bike, dont feel threatened by my Denali,or are you unsure of it? There is nothing wrong with it. Don't need to reafirm others about your bike.If something is wrong with that bike is you. And you are showing your true colors.
Engineers are creative and optimistic minded. Im not an Engineer, but im happy doing what i do. Unlike you, that will take any opportunity to dump your trash in others people's yards if they let you. The only reason you join this thread is to talk thrash, with out adding anything positive. I feel bad for you..must be hard living like that.
06-14-17, 07:53 AM
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Keep that bike alive Gus. I know where your coming from. You have gathered good info from the responses and can continue having fun on your bike. . I love your line " one day I'll buy a 750 dollar bike" hilarious. BITD, I felt that my UO-8 needed new rims. I was convinced that the steel dimpled rims were the best. I took my hubs to the shop and a few days later, I picked up my new wheels. Problem was, the shop didn't use my hubs. I was bummed. I wanted MY hubs laced to the new rims. I miss that bike. When you get your 500 or 750 or 7000 dollar bike, keep that Denali.
Welcome to BF.
JEFF in Redondo.
Welcome to BF.
JEFF in Redondo.
lol, Yes went to the LBS, they had several nice ones in display,I asked the price. Seller said starts at $750 and up...
I think they were Trecks.
06-14-17, 08:01 AM
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Gusnova,
If you like the bike, put on some new, or good used, wheels and enjoy it. You are not the first one to upgrade a GMC Denali.
At one time or another we all spend money on something (bike, car, boat, etc.) the rest of the world tells us to just get rid of, but we spend it none-the-less. It personalized it and brings us some joy, and it is not that much money.
John
If you like the bike, put on some new, or good used, wheels and enjoy it. You are not the first one to upgrade a GMC Denali.
At one time or another we all spend money on something (bike, car, boat, etc.) the rest of the world tells us to just get rid of, but we spend it none-the-less. It personalized it and brings us some joy, and it is not that much money.
John
Really liked this line:
"... It personalized it and brings us some joy.."
In my case is where i get my adrenalin shots,lol
07-18-17, 07:23 AM
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Yes. Found knowledgeable people here. Im looking at different sets of wheels. Im going to get a new set as speare. Fix the old ones and just switch them as needed. I ride pretty hard. Costantly getting different issues with the wheels.
Really liked this line:
"... It personalized it and brings us some joy.."
In my case is where i get my adrenalin shots,lol
Really liked this line:
"... It personalized it and brings us some joy.."
In my case is where i get my adrenalin shots,lol
It appears that NONE of the above posters know much about the GMC Denali bicycle.....
The OLD is 135mm. The Denali is a hybrid with drop bars, using the low cost MTB components for the most part.
This is a direct replacement for the original wheel: https://www.niagaracycle.com/categor...bo-bk-dti2-0sl
Put your old freewheel on it, or a new freewheel and your done.
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The OLD is 135mm. The Denali is a hybrid with drop bars, using the low cost MTB components for the most part.
This is a direct replacement for the original wheel: https://www.niagaracycle.com/categor...bo-bk-dti2-0sl
Put your old freewheel on it, or a new freewheel and your done.
...
It's 28 pounds not 40 btw as someone claimed and some of that is in the wheels. Heavy crankset, handlebars, if you ever get around to replacing those. At one time I had a scheme to replace all of the components as they wore out - the problem with that plan is they tended to last too long.
Good luck and don't second guess yourself!
07-18-17, 09:27 AM
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Don't forget the fork; which is a heavy low grade steel piece. A Nashbar carbon fork is a great mass saving upgrade.
07-18-17, 09:59 AM
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Very true, very heavy fork. It's a quill stem headset though. We'd probably be fine converting to something more modern but I've left well enough alone on the fork.
07-18-17, 11:35 AM
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This one is threaded 
Nashbar Carbon 1-in Threaded Road Fork
Nashbar Carbon 1-in Threaded Road ForkMine has had literally everything changed but the frame and fork and stem. I haven't weighed it - it might actually be fairly light. Relatively speaking to the original.
07-18-17, 08:31 PM
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That would lighten it by two pounds right there. Combined with nothing more than lighter tires, and maybe lighter wheels (which can still be dirt cheap) the Denali might be under 24 pounds.
Mine has had literally everything changed but the frame and fork and stem. I haven't weighed it - it might actually be fairly light. Relatively speaking to the original.
Mine has had literally everything changed but the frame and fork and stem. I haven't weighed it - it might actually be fairly light. Relatively speaking to the original.
