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Old 09-06-17, 07:03 AM   #1
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No option to bolt on wheelset instead of QR!?

Hi Folks,
I am considering purchasing the Planet X London Road bike
Seems like a great bike and I was just about to pay for it when I asked if he could swap out the quick release mechanism for bolts. He tells me thats not possible on any Planet X bike as there are no threads to put in bolts!
I've had bikes and wheels robbed before and the weight and hassle of carrying around additional locks was something I wanted to avoid.
Does anyone know of any alternative skewers / bolt mechanism that could be used? I'm assuming the salesman is correct given it was a Planet X shop....but I'd be very happy if he wasnt!

I'm interested in your experience, and thanks
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Old 09-06-17, 08:47 AM   #2
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Answer doesn't quite make sense.


He must have thought you wanted to use thru-axle wheels. Those require threads in fork and frame.


The hubs are regular Quick-release hubs.
Meaning the frame/fork dropouts are made for regular quick-releases too.
They'll take nutted axles w/o problems.


For the hubs, I can't say.
It looks like here: https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/WPGIROE...-disc-wheelset that they'd use traditional threaded hollow axles and cup & cone bearings.
In which case all you have to do is pull the current axles out and replace with solid ones with the right length and thread.
Might still be some other design. A set of cartridge BBs lurking in there requiring proprietary axles.


Either way, getting a set of keyed Quick-release skewers will be easier.


Haven't used them myself, but these are supposed to be rather good.
https://pinheadlocks.com/store/en/16...release-wheels
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SO... Replace the whole wheel with one with an axle, that is threaded , to have the wheels affixed with Nuts, Or, .....

Then, to keep the wheels more securely ON, with a security Locking Skewer. a replacement for the levered QR.


pin head all use the same key..(cheaper that way) ,, Pitlock has a lot more to be unique to your key,


Or since this is another pre-worry thread, look for a different bike, maybe a folding bike , to never leave your side..





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You can't just throw axle nuts on those wheels, but you can install theft-resistant skewers. In ascending security and price, there's hex head skewers, hublox skewers which use a single, non standard key to open, and skewers that use unique(ish) keys to open, like Pinhead and Pitlock skewers. I recommend against any sort of theft-resistant quick release skewer--they pretty much all suck.

I'm amazed that the salesperson wasn't stoked that you basically wanted to buy an aftermarket accessory, which most bike shops have at least one product available of, and definitely any shop can order for you.
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Why not just put Hex Skewers on?

Going to take it your in the UK, if your going to the Rotherham shop? what your describing isn't common on bikes (bolt on hubs) unless they are very low end, just about all bikes will come with QR hubs, although it's really easy to swap them to Hex skewers.,
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I think I may have got my terminology incorrect. I think in fact its hex skewers is actually what i wanted. Just like on my current bike where i use an allen key to release the wheels. Perhaps I was unclear to the salesman too, although I would have thought he would suggest hex skewers.
I understand all you need is an allen key to get hex's off but at least every tom on the street cant just flip the QR open and walk off with a wheel.

Many Thanks for all your advice, it is invaluable. I'll chat to the sales guy again and see what the story is.

Thanks!
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I think I may have got my terminology incorrect. I think in fact its hex skewers is actually what i wanted. Just like on my current bike where i use an allen key to release the wheels. Perhaps I was unclear to the salesman too, although I would have thought he would suggest hex skewers.
I understand all you need is an allen key to get hex's off but at least every tom on the street cant just flip the QR open and walk off with a wheel.

Many Thanks for all your advice, it is invaluable. I'll chat to the sales guy again and see what the story is.

Thanks!
There are some that use a pentagonal key. Still not 100% secure, but 5 sided keys are not widely available.
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You can't just throw axle nuts on those wheels, but you can install theft-resistant skewers. In ascending security and price, there's hex head skewers, hublox skewers which use a single, non standard key to open, and skewers that use unique(ish) keys to open, like Pinhead and Pitlock skewers. I recommend against any sort of theft-resistant quick release skewer--they pretty much all suck.

I'm amazed that the salesperson wasn't stoked that you basically wanted to buy an aftermarket accessory, which most bike shops have at least one product available of, and definitely any shop can order for you.
While it's true that you can't put nuts on those axles, swapping out the axles is relatively trivial. You just need a solid axle of the proper length and diameter.
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While it's true that you can't put nuts on those axles, swapping out the axles is relatively trivial. You just need a solid axle of the proper length and diameter.
And thread pitch. I think that's what I would do.
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And thread pitch. I think that's what I would do.
Seriously? Axle replacement is a pain in the ass, not an option on all hubs, and likely beyond the skill or tooling level of mechanical knowledge of the OP, when a cheap set of hex head skewers would accomplish the same result. It's not like he's running a fixed gear.
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Seriously? Axle replacement is a pain in the ass, not an option on all hubs, and likely beyond the skill or tooling level of mechanical knowledge of the OP, when a cheap set of hex head skewers would accomplish the same result. It's not like he's running a fixed gear.
As others have said, the "security" quick releases leave a lot to be desired. Changing the axles is relatively easy and, while not an option on some hubs, it's an option on most hubs. The Gipiemme Roccia Equipe wheels on this bike look like they are straight forward cup and cone hubs so they would be easy to convert.
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It seems as though the sales guy didnt understand me and also decided not to follow up with any questions in order to clarify or sell a 1k bike....hmmmm...

Anyway, long story short, hex skewers should do the trick.
Im happy anyway.

And mucho thanks to the wizards here
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