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    broken seatbinder Trek

    Help,

    I have a Trek 1220 aluminum frame that has a broken seatbinder. Take a look at the photo.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks

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    Looks hosed to me. That fastener(?) that is in the binder hole original or some kludge someone used to create the problem or try and fix it?

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    As Sydney said, it's hosed. If you try to use a traditional seatpost binder bolt after removing the insert there, it's is likely that you will then break off the remainder of the fixture. Had a customer do so just recently. I suggest you take it back to the place of purchase and begin warranty proceedings, provided you are the original owner. He's been waiting a month or so thus far on his replacement and no word yet.

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    Oh yeah, it is hosed, no doubt about it.

    To Sydney-That is the binder nut in the hole. The light reflection makes it look like kludge.

    To Waldo-I am the original owner, so there is warranty on these things??? If not, I am guessing I would take it to a frame builder or an experienced mechanic who would then either replace the binder mount or grind off the bulk so a removable seat binder mechanism could be used?

    Thanks in advance for your input.

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    Technically, ther's a lifetime warranty against manufacturer's defects. Trek accepted the customer's request to ship it back for warranty evaluation. That doesn't necessarily mean they will provide him with a replacement frame, but at least they did not flatly deny him once they knew the issue. As I'm not at a Trek shop I don't know where his claim stands at this point, beyond that it had been a month or so and he had not received any resolution. Your best bet if that fails is to have the "bulk" gound off, as a good chunk of it sheared off under modest loading when the customer tried a replacement bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadbike123
    Oh yeah, it is hosed, no doubt about it.

    To Sydney-That is the binder nut in the hole. The light reflection makes it look like kludge.

    To Waldo-I am the original owner, so there is warranty on these things??? If not, I am guessing I would take it to a frame builder or an experienced mechanic who would then either replace the binder mount or grind off the bulk so a removable seat binder mechanism could be used?

    Thanks in advance for your input.
    That 'binder' nut is what I was referencing. Warranty does not cover hamfistedness, if that happended to be the cause,but you might still get lucky. You need to rethink how a removable clamp could possibly work on that setup.Replacing the whole 'binder mount' is not a viable option.

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    To finish this story, I took the bike to my local bike shop with photos in hand. They emailed them to Trek and I was given the choice of a new frame and fork or a $669.00 credit. I paid $740 for the bike in 1995.

    I took the credit towards a Trek 5000. Now I have all the components off the Trek 1220 and am trying to decide if I should sell them or build up a new bike. There have been similar frames on eBay in the $50.00 range, but what would I do with another bike?????? (I know exactly what I would do with another bike, but my wife was looking over my shoulder while I was typing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadbike123
    To finish this story, I took the bike to my local bike shop with photos in hand. They emailed them to Trek and I was given the choice of a new frame and fork or a $669.00 credit. I paid $740 for the bike in 1995.
    Not a bad depreciation rate!

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    It is most excellent!

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