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    Campy 8 speed with 7 speed compatibility

    I'm looking to use a 8 speed campy ergo shifters with a 7 speed setup. I was wondering if I also need a campy deraillier or can i use the current 7 speed 105 der.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan0930
    I'm looking to use a 8 speed campy ergo shifters with a 7 speed setup. I was wondering if I also need a campy deraillier or can i use the current 7 speed 105 der.
    Campy and shimano RD have different throw ratios. You will have better luck with a campy RD.Index systems just don't randomly intermix among brands..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydney
    Campy and shimano RD have different throw ratios. You will have better luck with a campy RD.Index systems just don't randomly intermix among brands..

    sydney's right on the money. Full details, and some stuff you might not have thought of yet:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946

    It appears you could also replace the shift disk in your Campy lever with a pre-2001 9s one and "hubbub" the Shimano rear derailleur, but I think just using the shifters the way you have them with a pre-2001 Campy rear derailleur would give you the best shifting. 7s Shimano Sora shifters are still available too, if you're interested...
    It is my belief that every person in this world has something to teach, and everything to learn.

    In memory of Jim Price (aka. sydney) ...

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    My current Campy setup:

    Record Ergo shifters
    Record RD
    Sachs Aris 7-speed FW

    I have no problems with shifting. Every gear hits just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogodo
    My current Campy setup:

    Record Ergo shifters
    Record RD
    Sachs Aris 7-speed FW

    I have no problems with shifting. Every gear hits just fine.
    When you post this mix and match stuff it would help others to understand if you mentioned shifter speed and cog spacing. Otherwise it's just drivel. There are lots of cobbed combinations that work because the combinations really are compatible or 'close enough', and sometimes you just get lucky. Hoping to 'get lucky' can cost alot of time,money and frustration when working with index systems.

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    For you, sydney:

    Record Ergo 8-speed shifters
    Record 8-speed RD
    Sachs Aris 7-speed FW

    Sorry I wasn't clear that I was using 8-speed Record equipment. If the user had followed the link in the post above mine, he would have seen that the spacing would be the same. Or, if he had read every post I'd ever made about my setup, he would already know that I'm running 8-speed Ergo parts. You seem to have no problem with knowing everything about everyone's setups based on what they've posted in the past, I guess I figured that he would , too.

    Sorry to offend you, oh great cycling god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogodo
    For you, sydney:

    Record Ergo 8-speed shifters
    Record 8-speed RD
    Sachs Aris 7-speed FW

    Sorry I wasn't clear that I was using 8-speed Record equipment. If the user had followed the link in the post above mine, he would have seen that the spacing would be the same. Or, if he had read every post I'd ever made about my setup, he would already know that I'm running 8-speed Ergo parts. You seem to have no problem with knowing everything about everyone's setups based on what they've posted in the past, I guess I figured that he would , too.

    Sorry to offend you, oh great cycling god.
    Well HFC, no wonder it works. The cog spacing on that 7 speed freewheel is the came as campy 8 speed cog spacing. campy 7 and 8 spacing is 5mm. Shimano 7 is 5mm and 8 is 4.8mm. That doesn't even get into the differences in cable pull/derailer throw issues between different systems.... If you didn't notice, his question threw the shimano RD into the mix too ..... FWIW, I'm sure everybody,epecially n00bs have read and remembered every post of everyones and what they are runnning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydney
    Well HFC, no wonder it works. The cog spacing on that 7 speed freewheel is the came as campy 8 speed cog spacing. campy 7 and 8 spacing is 5mm. Shimano 7 is 5mm and 8 is 4.8mm. That doesn't even get into the differences in cable pull/derailer throw issues between different systems.... If you didn't notice, his question threw the shimano RD into the mix too .....
    You know, I almost posted that I agreed with you with regards to mixing brands in my initial post. Now I wish I had, just 'cause it would have shut you up.

    FWIW, I'm sure everybody,epecially n00bs have read and remembered every post of everyones and what they are runnning...
    You've called me on it before, when I made statements based on the facts presented, and wasn't aware, like you were, that the original poster had previously posted other pertinent information in another post. I guess it's ok for you to do it, but not me. Glad to know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogodo
    I guess it's ok for you to do it, but not me. Glad to know it.
    Yeah, sydney is special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydney
    Yeah, sydney is special.
    Yeah, short-bus special.
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