Stem life
09-22-02, 05:04 AM
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Stem life
After our group ride yesterday, the bar binder bolt on my stem broke. Since I was sprinting across traffic, my bars twisted out of the stem, and dumped me on the ground. Fortunately, no injuries worth mentioning.
The bolt snapped where it entered the threads. Never did find it.
Anybody got any thoughts on the fatigue life of a stem?
Oh, and I go about 220 pounds and love to sprint.
The bolt snapped where it entered the threads. Never did find it.
Anybody got any thoughts on the fatigue life of a stem?
Oh, and I go about 220 pounds and love to sprint.
09-22-02, 07:39 AM
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Bolts usually break or threads get stripped from overtigthtening. Single bolts on most traditional quill stems use to be beefy and good for life if not overtighetned.Many actually would have been near impossible to break one. Although in the quest for lightness, I have seen single stem camp bolts that would seem to have been sized for water bottle holder use.So the answer is there is no answer. If you are heavy and stress stuff,don't overtighten and maybe avoid the lighter stuff witih marginal looking fasteners. Folks are having their share of problems with the new super light stuff more because of their own errors in installation, than due to any kind of problems with the product itself. The new stuff is often a good place for a torque wrench.There is always the possibility that the bolt itself was defective.
09-22-02, 10:06 AM
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This wasn't light weight stuff, but I may be guilty of overtightening. Bolt body is 7 mm diameter. Looks like a pure tensile failure of the bolt, with no sign of corrosion.
Just wondering if I should change out stems every few years. Got lucky this time, if it had cut loose during our final sprint, it could have been messy.
Just wondering if I should change out stems every few years. Got lucky this time, if it had cut loose during our final sprint, it could have been messy.
09-22-02, 10:47 AM
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Those are HARD to break.Cheaper to change out bolts.They ususally do not have to be that tight unless you are trying to overcome a bar/ stem clamp mismatch , and that often causes problems.
09-22-02, 02:45 PM
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If you do alot of out-of-saddle sprinting and/or climbing, consider replacing your stem, binder bolt, and even handlebar every few years. The same goes for your crankset. Aluminum does eventually fail due to fatigue.
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Another point on stem bolts.Alot of even the big beefy ones are grade 12.9. that is high grade and for a reason. Good bolts often get changed out over a stems life, often with low grade ones because that is what is easily found and may be what 'fits'.
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How does one know when one has overtightened a stem bolt?
I have always tested whether I had it tight enough by holding the wheel between my legs and trying to turn the bars. If I can turn them, then I know that it is still too loose.
This spring, however, I broke one as I was tightening it. I had done my wheel test (which failed). So, I went tighter, and suddenly "Ping", followed by the rattle of the nut falling down the head tube. Granted, this bolt was rather old (but good quality--Cinelli).
But, now I have this insecurity that I can't get it tight enough to pass the wheel test without being too tight for the bolt.
Any thoughts?
Cheers,
Jamie
I have always tested whether I had it tight enough by holding the wheel between my legs and trying to turn the bars. If I can turn them, then I know that it is still too loose.
This spring, however, I broke one as I was tightening it. I had done my wheel test (which failed). So, I went tighter, and suddenly "Ping", followed by the rattle of the nut falling down the head tube. Granted, this bolt was rather old (but good quality--Cinelli).
But, now I have this insecurity that I can't get it tight enough to pass the wheel test without being too tight for the bolt.
Any thoughts?
Cheers,
Jamie
