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Old 10-04-05, 10:11 AM   #1
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stupid question about pedals

Nashbar has these really inexpensive clipless pedals. Since I'm not sure if I want to go clipless, this seems like a good intro. But will ATB pedals work on a road bike? Or are they different sizes/threads?



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Yes, they should be fine. I have a similar set from Performance (cheapo) which I use on my everyday commuter bike (folder). They've been surprisingly durable. The hardest part will probably be taking off the old pedals, and remembering the direction of the threading on the left pedal is different. There are a zillion threads on taking off old pedals which are seemingly stuck, search around.

IMO a $12 (whatever) pedal wrench is a great investment, too.
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Yes, same size and threads. Unless you've got a really old road bike (pre-1980) or a bmx bike, those can be different.
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These pedals allow you to use shoes which you can walk in, like the Shimano SPD pedals. The Nashbar site doesnt mention anything about the cleats that mate your shoes to these pedals, they are not SPD and may only be available from Nashbar. Most road pedals spread the pedaling force over a larger area of the foot which is more comfortable for long rides.
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A little OT, but when a pedal advertises as having an 'SPD style' cleat, does that mean that the cleats are interchangeable with SPD, or simply that it's a similar (but incompatible) design?

I'm curious because having more than one bike with more than one pedal type seems to mean having more than one pair of shoes, one for each bike..
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A little OT, but when a pedal advertises as having an 'SPD style' cleat, does that mean that the cleats are interchangeable with SPD, or simply that it's a similar (but incompatible) design?

I'm curious because having more than one bike with more than one pedal type seems to mean having more than one pair of shoes, one for each bike..
I think the answer is "depends". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Eggbeater cleats could be considered "SPD style" but are not directly compatible (I bring it up because I was confused when researching what to put on my commuter).
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I've got two different 'spd' pedals from Nashbar - the dual sided mtb ones and the Rodeo model (platform/spd). Each came with slightly different type cleats, but each work with the other pedal. That said, the pedals work slightly better with the cleat that came with it, but I haven't had any real problems with the mix-match. Nashbar/Performance pedals are rebadged wellgo pedals, finding the cleats for them shouldn't be much of an issue. Email Nashbar technical service if you have any specific questions - they have always been prompt and helpful with their respones.
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Nashbar (various model Welgo) pedals are "SPD-compatible", that is the Nashbar cleats and Shimano's SPD cleats are similar enough to work in each other's pedals but not perfectly. A "class B" fit as it were. I've mixed and matched them with adequate results.
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Nashbar has these really inexpensive clipless pedals. Since I'm not sure if I want to go clipless, this seems like a good intro. But will ATB pedals work on a road bike? Or are they different sizes/threads?



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MarkS - I just got these delivered yesterday. Very curious how much $13.49 gets you in pedals (with coupon) and they look real good. A bit rough in the bearing, just spinning them in hand, but I'll take off my old Ritchie pedals and give these a go. I may stick with them, or keep them on hand as spares. They look very similar to my Ritchies.

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I got extra SPD pedals with road bikes from bikesdirect and wanted to put them on a 1988 Raleigh Technium 480. Tried to take the old pedals off... had a 4' pipe on a sturdy wrench with the crank in a vise (yes marred it real good) and got two turns of the pedal after 20 minutes. Yes I know which way to screw as I used to be a bike mechanic in some time BC.

Gave up. Wanting SPD pedals on these bikes has caused me to buy new cranks, which needed a new bottom bracket, that necessitated a new rear wheel (9 spd) and chain and freewhell. 175 per bike (my wife's and mine) so far with on sale components from Nashbar and elsewhere.

What a pain those "free" pedals turned out to be.
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"SPD Compatible" actually refers to the drillings in the shoes, from what I read somewhere. You can have SPD style pedals, but it's the hole pattern on the cleats and how they match the shoes that makes them compatible. For best results, you need to use the cleats that come with your pedals. That said, I've used one set of cleats for Wellgo, Ritchey, and Shimano pedals, with no problems.
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I have a pair of these pedals (Nashbar Special ATB Pedals) on my commuter bike and a pair of Shimano 520's on my MTB. I use the Shimano cleats and have no problems with either pedal. I actually like the Nashbars better because they have a definite 'click' when you click in.
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i have a set of those cheapo nashbar clipless on my mtb. Not all nashbar stuff is decent, some of it is junkola - but these seem to work pretty well - I got the hybrid kind with the clip on 1 side and the platform on the other - since i do some around town, non serious riding to the grocery store and stuff
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man I tell you what, i have had that same domino experience with nashbar stuff - you get something on sale seemingly cheap, it doesn't work right, and pretty soon you're cascading into hundreds of dollars revamping all this stupid stuff on your bike that really isn't broken, it's just not compatible.

so now I'm about 500 bucks into a bike that performancewise isn't worth $100. Beware - I thought I had some mechanic skills and that I would be able to save some $ - but although I have increased my mech skills a little, i paid for it, and some stuff i had to end up taking to the LBS anyway.
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I have these exact pedals on my road bike. No problems at all.

I'm using Shimano branded cleats, btw...
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Thanks for all your responses!

One stupid question deserves another. It appears that the Nashbar pedals are *supposed* to go with the Nashbar replacement cleats. which run about $9. So your actual cost would be closer to $25 dollars? Still a good deal, I presume?

According to Nashbar, the cleats are SPD compatible.

Do cleats usually come with the *shoes*, with thepedals, or separately (like with these)?

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Cleats are supposed to come with the pedals.
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man I tell you what, i have had that same domino experience with nashbar stuff - you get something on sale seemingly cheap, it doesn't work right, and pretty soon you're cascading into hundreds of dollars revamping all this stupid stuff on your bike that really isn't broken, it's just not compatible.

so now I'm about 500 bucks into a bike that performancewise isn't worth $100. Beware - I thought I had some mechanic skills and that I would be able to save some $ - but although I have increased my mech skills a little, i paid for it, and some stuff i had to end up taking to the LBS anyway.
My son told me something that seems wise: The real cost of something you buy is given by the sale price PLUS any modifications you have to make to it or whatever it works with, to get it to the state that you desire. He's seen me a number of times buy stuff on the cheap then have to do all sorts of other tricks to make the cheapo work.
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A little OT, but when a pedal advertises as having an 'SPD style' cleat, does that mean that the cleats are interchangeable with SPD, or simply that it's a similar (but incompatible) design?

I'm curious because having more than one bike with more than one pedal type seems to mean having more than one pair of shoes, one for each bike..
The cleats are specific to the pedals and should come with the pedals. The "S" in SPD means Shimano.

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I think the answer is "depends". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Eggbeater cleats could be considered "SPD style" but are not directly compatible (I bring it up because I was confused when researching what to put on my commuter).
No they are not. What "SPD style" means is that the eggbeater's cleats can be used with SPD shoes (they use 2 screws and fit the SPD mount). Eggbeaters will come with their proprietary cleats though (mine did), so it should be no big deal.
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Cleats are supposed to come with the pedals.
well prove me wrong, but cleats ALWAYS come with the pedals, never with the shoes, and any pedals you buy should have replacement cleats available separately, both for when they wear out and for those of us with a second set of shoes (I have 3)

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well prove me wrong, but cleats ALWAYS come with the pedals, never with the shoes, and any pedals you buy should have replacement cleats available separately, both for when they wear out and for those of us with a second set of shoes (I have 3)

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You'll notice my comment was directly below that of the person who stated that the cleats had to be purchased separately from the Nashbar pedals. So which one of us is missing something?
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