Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-31-05, 10:27 AM   #1
DeDuva
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Culleoka, TN
Bikes: Crescent, Ciocc, Proflex, Moser, Marin
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Cleaning Tubes

I have a much loved Ciocc that I'd like to preserve. I have noticed some rust in my bottom bracket and the bottom of my seat post. I know about Weigle's frame preserver but I thought there might be a ramrod/brush combination made for some size shotgun that would work to clean up the seat tube before spraying in the coating. Has anyone done something like this? I was thinking a cleaning kit for a 12 guage might work.. If someone has done this can you guide me on the size of the brush? Likewise, if this is a bad idea I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks in advance.
DeDuva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-05, 12:12 PM   #2
HillRider 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '''96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '12 Surly Pacer, All are 3x8,9 or 10. It is hilly around here!
Posts: 29,117
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
A 12 ga or 10 ga rod and bronze brush should work. If your tubes are too large for a good tight fit, wrap some fine steel wool around the brush until the fit is snug.

I've used the shotgun brush technique to clean various frame tubes and fork steerers. They work well.
HillRider is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-05, 01:51 PM   #3
BostonFixed
Banned.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Saw the bike in half. Clean thouroughly, then weld back together.
BostonFixed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-05, 03:44 PM   #4
neil0502
My bike's better than me!
 
neil0502's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Northern Colorado
Bikes: (2) Moots Vamoots, (1) Cannondale T2000 tourer, (1) Diamondback Response Comp mtb
Posts: 2,041
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonFixed
Saw the bike in half. Clean thouroughly, then weld back together.
Excellent! The simple, inelegant solution is quite often the best. Don't overthink it....
neil0502 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-05, 08:39 PM   #5
BostonFixed
Banned.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think I misspelled thoroughly.
BostonFixed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-05, 09:19 PM   #6
San Rensho 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 5,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Ciocc. Nice bike. Is the bottom bracket cut out? if not, that may be whats causing the rust. Cutting out the bottom bracket ventilates the tubes in the frame and lets out water and condensation. I've always done it to my bikes by just drilling a couple of 1/4 in. holes in the bottom of the bottom bracket. Not very elegant but effective. If the paint is still in really great shape, take it to a frame builder to do a star or clover shaped cut-out. If you're good with a dremel tool, try it yourself.
San Rensho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-05, 12:05 PM   #7
DeDuva
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Culleoka, TN
Bikes: Crescent, Ciocc, Proflex, Moser, Marin
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by San Rensho
Ciocc. Nice bike. Is the bottom bracket cut out? if not, that may be whats causing the rust. Cutting out the bottom bracket ventilates the tubes in the frame and lets out water and condensation. I've always done it to my bikes by just drilling a couple of 1/4 in. holes in the bottom of the bottom bracket. Not very elegant but effective. If the paint is still in really great shape, take it to a frame builder to do a star or clover shaped cut-out. If you're good with a dremel tool, try it yourself.
I do have a cut out, but the only place I have to store it is unheated and the condensation is the problem I think. Now that you mention it I hang it upside down too so maybe I'll remove the seat and post before hanging it. I appreciate the help.
DeDuva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-05, 12:07 PM   #8
DeDuva
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Culleoka, TN
Bikes: Crescent, Ciocc, Proflex, Moser, Marin
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HillRider
A 12 ga or 10 ga rod and bronze brush should work. If your tubes are too large for a good tight fit, wrap some fine steel wool around the brush until the fit is snug.

I've used the shotgun brush technique to clean various frame tubes and fork steerers. They work well.
I think I'll give it a try. The steel wool is a good tip too, thanks.
DeDuva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-05, 06:10 AM   #9
shane45
Ouch!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canada
Bikes:
Posts: 453
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeDuva
The steel wool is a good tip too
Yeah, if you want to ENCOURAGE rust.

Steel wool leaves small and microscopic particles of metal everywhere. They imbed themselves into the grain of the metal you're working on, and get into every possible crack and crevice you can imagine. If you don't have rust now, you will after using steel wool.
shane45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-06, 09:08 AM   #10
Road Fan
Senior Member
 
Road Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes:
Posts: 12,421
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonFixed
Saw the bike in half. Clean thouroughly, then weld back together.
Love it!

Reminds me of a safe method of replacing the shingles on a house: Cut all around the roof of a house, just below the eaves and gables. Lift the roof off of the house with a crane and lower to the ground. Replace parts of roof as needed. Lift roof and replace on house. Reattach roof to house.

This was attributed to an anonymous theoretical physicist.

Cutting roofs in Ann Arbor,

Ken
Road Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-06, 10:17 AM   #11
GreyGoat
Senior Member
 
GreyGoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NY midstate
Bikes: 85 Ross Mt Rainier(for winter road use), 86 Centurion Ironman Master, 92 trek 2300,2005 Iron Horse HollowPoint Expert
Posts: 395
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
After spraying WD40 into my tubes, I decided to use a frame saver type product(called IronClad by Zep) so I had to find a way to get all the wd40 out of the tubes.. I did this using spray gumout carb cleaner and a portion of a sock fixed to the end of a 3 foot section of 12 gauge wire. I just twisted the end of the wire around the section of sock rag etc.. this worked pretty good and was a cheap readily available solution... I used two strands of wire and a bigger piece of sock rag for the bigger tubes, and a single strand and a smaller section of sock for the chain stays..
GreyGoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:55 PM.