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Old 12-22-05, 11:45 AM   #1
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Crank Puller Tool - help !

Hey all, I have a early 80's Schwinn World Sport road bike with Sugino VP cranks.

I need to find the proper tool to remove them for maintenance.

I have looked on ebay and I found many of these kinds of tools however, they have various part #'s and such... does anyone know which tool I should use ?

The designations I have seen are " CCP-2" and so forth... HELP !!!!!!!!

Here is a pic of my crank set...

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Old 12-22-05, 11:51 AM   #2
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First of all, remove the cap covering the crank insertion on the spindle, after that, make the picture. I suppose this tool will take the job.

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...6&item=CWP%2D6
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Old 12-22-05, 11:57 AM   #3
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Many cranks I've used from that era required nothing more than a 14mm socket.

Just remove that cover and check what is underneath. Looks like you could use a large flathead screwdriver to remove the cap.
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Old 12-22-05, 12:37 PM   #4
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I have a similar vintage Sugino crankset. Unscrew the cover off with a large flat blade screwdriver. Mine has a 14mm retaining nut. The spindle is a square taper.
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I have removed the cap, there is a 14mm nut in there, however I can't seem to get the crank arm off of the middle part...

that is why I think I need a puller.. The inside of the crank arm is threaded so I figure that is where the tool would screw on to and then allow me to turn the middle part to pry it off of the middle shaft thing...

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Old 12-22-05, 12:46 PM   #6
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You'll never get the crank assembly off by just removing the cover and the bolt. You will need a crank remover tool to get the assembly itself off.

caotropheus (above) has provided a link.

Steps:

1. Remove the cover (usually a screwdriver will work easily)

2. Remove the bolt (see others' posts above)

3. Thread on the crank puller (you will have to "back out" the center of this tool before threading it on).

4. Using a wrench, begin to feed the center of the crank puller back into the tool. You will begin to feel resistance when doing this -- this is normal and will happen as the tool "pulls" the crank assembly off of the spindle (the center of the tool will PUSH, while the outer part of the tool will PULL).

5. Remove the crank puller from the now-free assembly.

Older Campy bottom bracket tools will work with Sugino cranks as well. I just took one off of a Peugeot.
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I would only add, be sure the washer from the bolt is out also. Make sure the extractor body is theaded in all the way and tight, when you start to turn the extractor bolt, go easy, its really easy to strip the threads in the crank arm. If it doesn't budge after using firm force on the extractor bolt, stop and try something else before you destroy the threads.
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Thanks for all the help guys !

All I need to do now is determine the exact matching tool.. I don't want to spend $ 30 on a tool that won't fit and that I can't return !

I just want to be sure that the above link will be the right tool for this crank.

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In a pinch you can ride the bike until the crank loosens. Never took me more than 1/4 mile.
Then I broke down and bought a cheap Nashbar crank puller. Works like a charm for around $8, and comes with 14 and 15mm sockets to boot.
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At your LBS, you can find the same crank puller as the $8 Nashbar puller under the name of Pyramid, Giant, or Summit. They're all made by Lifu. I've got one I got with the Giant label on the packaging, but it's made my Lifu. It works fine.
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Thanks for all the help guys !

All I need to do now is determine the exact matching tool.. I don't want to spend $ 30 on a tool that won't fit and that I can't return !

I just want to be sure that the above link will be the right tool for this crank.

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The above mentioned Nashbar tool will work as will the CCP-2 from Park (about $14.00). This SUGINO tool will work as well. I bought one to remove the cranks from my 1980 Schwinn World Sport in 1984 and have used it on several JIS square taper cranks since then.

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In a pinch you can ride the bike until the crank loosens. Never took me more than 1/4 mile.
That's clever. I've spent a lifetime never having clever thoughts like that.

My wife kept buying bread with these huge slices. I said to her that the slices make a sandwich too big. She said "just make a 1/2 of a sandwich".

Never in a million years would I have thought of that.
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Yup nothing like rounding out the tapered hole on a crank arm by riding it until it falls off. Great idea.
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Yup nothing like rounding out the tapered hole on a crank arm by riding it until it falls off. Great idea.

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Go to parktool.com, and check-out the "repair help" section. There is a link to it at the top right corner of the page.
My bike had the 14mm bolts. I used the Park Tool CCP-2 after removing the bolts, and it worked fine. The guy at the LBS where I bought it said to lubricate the threads in the crank arm before screwing in the crank puller. He also said to tighten it in the crank with a wrench before doing the extraction. If you don't get a good grip on the crank, you will strip the threads right out of it.
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Park CCP-2 is what you need.
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awesome advice guys !

Thanks alot !!!!!!!!

I would have ordered the sugino tool but I had already ordered the Park ccp2 from ebay for $9.95 + 4.95 shipping .

I'll definately lube the threads before I put it on...

Wish me luck !!!
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That's clever. I've spent a lifetime never having clever thoughts like that.

My wife kept buying bread with these huge slices. I said to her that the slices make a sandwich too big. She said "just make a 1/2 of a sandwich".

Never in a million years would I have thought of that.
You could also cut a single slice in half. But I'm just like you. My wife is always saying simple things that I miss.

On a related note. I love Park tools. Go with the Park crank puller.

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Yup nothing like rounding out the tapered hole on a crank arm by riding it until it falls off. Great idea.
A quarter mile (or less) won't do it with the torque I can generate. I guess I'm just not a manly man.

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A Park Tool CCP-2 crank puller should work. I Work on a lot of old bikes from the eighties (including lots of Schwinn). The CCP-3 works on nearly all of them.

To be sure, I would buy the tool from you LBS so you can bring you bike to the shop and try the tool out to be sure.
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I have the Park, and the Lifu, and another I can't remember the brand of. Call me crazy, but I always find myself reaching for the Lifu. I just prefer it for whatever reason. And, yea, buy it from your LBS if you can.
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