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Old 02-22-06, 01:27 AM   #1
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Spoke wind up prevention - intervention

Is there a 12 step program to prevent spoke wind up you while you are truing a wheel?

The spokes are 14/15/14 DT's and they are twisting a lot.

going 1/4 or 1/2 turn farther and then return is not working. The spokes are twisting more than 1/2 turn with the nipple.

Please intervene before I hurt myself

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Old 02-22-06, 05:54 AM   #2
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How are you checking spoke tension? You may have the spokes at too high a tension and thus getting a lot of twist.

Also are you prepping the nipples with anything? Just curious.
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Is there a 12 step program to prevent spoke wind up you while you are truing a wheel?

The spokes are 14/15/14 DT's and they are twisting a lot.

going 1/4 or 1/2 turn farther and then return is not working. The spokes are twisting more than 1/2 turn with the nipple.

Please intervene before I hurt myself

Butted spokes will tend to twist more than non-butted and are a little trickier to work with because of that. Spoke prep reduces friction between spoke and nipple.

Also, detension (stress relieve) frequently.

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Did you lube the threads before building? I've heard of using padded pliers to hold the spoke near the nipple to keep it from twisting.
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Old 02-22-06, 07:52 AM   #5
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Lots of people use boiled linseed oil on the threads instead of spokeprep. I just bought a quart of it for $5 yesterday at the hardware store.

As to your problem, and what you can do right now, I often find that just gripping the spoke (just below the nipple) between my fingers works quite well in cases where I'm getting wind-up.
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You can also put pieces of tape on the spokes near the nipple aligned with the wheel. Continuosly make sure they stay straight and you're good.
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With double butted I hold every spoke with pliars. There are special pliars made for this but I just use some old cheap ones that don't scratch the spokes. I also use spoke prep but still need the pliars. I also use lots of tension.

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Oil or grease on the treads. Anything that locks the threads later will also lubricate, but good luck trueing the wheel later on.
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If I'm truing an older wheel whose spokes nipples are sticking to the threads and causing spoke wind-up, I put a drop of ProLink on each spoke nipple at the head of the nipple (so, tire and rim strip must be removed). This allows the threads to move much more easily. If the wheel is pretty high-tension, this practice doesn't add much danger of spokes loosening from road noise. For a rear wheel, I'd only do this for the drive-side spokes (which are usually the ones that experience wind-up, anyway).

This practice may also be useful for more recently-built wheels whose spokes are sticking to the nipples.
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