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Old 02-25-06, 05:30 PM   #1
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My huffy-score plastic pedals on my rain bike are finally breaking (after 2 years of heavy riding!) so I'm going to get some MKS clip and strap pedals to replace. Is there any real benefit to metal clips? Aluminum vs steel? Or should I simply go with "resin," (which is to say, "plastic", yes)?

I was planning on ordering these from SB, but he only has leather straps. Anyody know a place to order MKS pedals, clips and straps (of the cheap, non-leather variety) online? Leather straps probably arent the best bet for a rain bike.
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Steel clips are more durable. When the pedal is upside-down, the top of the clip (where the strap weaves through it) often bumps the ground. This can crack, or just wear down, with plastic. I'm running Power Grips now, but if I were still using toeclips and straps, I'd get metal clips. Leather straps are really nice - they work better than fabric. But you're right, probably not best for a rain bike. And, plastic clips do work fine. Just not as nice or as durable as metal.
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Old 02-25-06, 09:49 PM   #3
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When I used toeclips, I much prefer(ed) metal clips. My main problem with toeclips – all of them – is that the shoecage is much too thin to my liking. Metal clips are easy to reshape.
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aluminum clips donts rust an are just as reliable as the old steel clips either are better then resin since they can snap in cold weather; but some folk say the resin are more comfortable.

http://www.businesscycles.com/trcomp.htm#pedals
http://www.rivbike.com/webalog/pedals_clips_straps/

nylon straps can be found at almost any lbs
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I've snapped plastics before.

I've never snapped a steel clip.
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I used to run Zefal plastic clips on my MTB. I rode offroad with them, slammed them into more stuff than I care to remember. I hated toeclips with a passion but offroad clipless pedals weren't yet available at the time. However, those plastic clips never broke or got bent out of shape.
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I run MKS sylvian touring pedals, Christophe steel clips and leather straps on an all-weather bike.
Steel clips are durable and can be bent top accomodate boots as well as shoes. I am a size 9 and use L size.
Leather straps are fine in the wet and hold their shape well, making it easier to get your feet in.
Rivendell are a good source.
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I`ll give you a set of plastic with nylon straps, PM me with your addy info, and I`ll send them Monday
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I guess you don`t read your own post
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I've broken steel, and have broken leather straps (admittedly vintage). Never had a problme with newer, plastic nylon combos, but no all my bikes are clipless.
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I got my leather/nylon MKS straps locally. You sholdn't have too much trouble finding them online. I'm currently running Soma metal clips on mine, which I prefer to the ordinary metal clips. My preferred resin clips are Zefal resins like these:
http://www.fisheroutdoor.co.uk/publi...f9a4a6cd6ffd24

Note how much thicker they are in the front than your normal resin clips of the same design. I've been trying to find these locally, but only manage to find the ones made by "Dimension," which are good, but not as good as the zefals which I've had for years.

If you'll notice, I like the clips with the two strap attachments as they hold the straps open better than the single attachment clips. I've broken a set of MKS steel clips before, but never a set of resin clips, so my experience is a little different than other posters. Most metal clips will not fit bigger shoes, like adidas shell toes or skate shoes out of the box, you need to bend the clips. The zefals are pretty wide mouthed, especially the ones I've linked above. If you're wearing a thinner shoe, like Converse all-stars and their various copies or Adidas Sambas and their copies, you'll be fine with steel clips.
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My huffy-score plastic pedals on my rain bike are finally breaking (after 2 years of heavy riding!) so I'm going to get some MKS clip and strap pedals to replace. Is there any real benefit to metal clips? Aluminum vs steel? Or should I simply go with "resin," (which is to say, "plastic", yes)?

I was planning on ordering these from SB, but he only has leather straps. Anyody know a place to order MKS pedals, clips and straps (of the cheap, non-leather variety) online? Leather straps probably arent the best bet for a rain bike.
Actually leather straps are the best period.

Here's what I recall from my days of riding with toke lips, 15 odd years ago:

Metal clips are a bit easier to get into, 'cause they're heavier and make the pedals dangle at a more predictable angle.

If you ride in fat winter boots, metal clips can be re-bent to permit a taller toe box to fit in.

Plastic clips have a couple of advantages though:

The "mountain" style fit street shoes better than an un-bent metal clip.

They don't act so much as a heat sink in cold weather, so your toesies may be warmer.

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Fine, give me $300 for some spiffy pedals and shoes.
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Fine, give me $300 for some spiffy pedals and shoes.
"Spiffy" conventional cleated shoes and clips ain't cheap either, even if you can find them. You can get clipless pedals and shoes together for $100 or less if you know where to look.
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i use metal toe clips on my vintage bike but tried the "mini" resin ones (no straps) on my road trainer years ago. i have to say that they work great and are very durable. you might want to try a pair. might be just the ticket for a rain bike!
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...You can get clipless pedals and shoes together for $100 or less if you know where to look.
And....where would that be?
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Would it be the same place I can buy a faux carbon helmet, or a spaghetti-o's jersey?
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These size large Zefal MTB or half clips work great.I have them on my MTB and street bikes.You can easily stuff any size normal shoe in there.Now on this street bike they are a little iffy because they are so long-you can foul the wheel with your foot when turning.They last a long timecheap too-$4.95.Plastic is great stuff-not pretty however.
Leather straps full sized clips actually are very durable-and they hold themselves open pretty well for normal riding where you are taking your foot out and putting it back in the clip fairly often.Luck,Charlie
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And....where would that be?
Performance, Nashbar, your LBS if you shop carefully. Shoes don't have to start at $175 and clipless pedals at $150. Perfectly servicable versions of both are much less expensive.
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My first set of shoes and pedals were $50 total, brand new, at the swap meet at the SD velodrome. Watch for sales and you can get shoes for 40 and pedals for 15 on nashbar/ performance. Of course, a good set of clips might give a slighly better feel than cheap clipless, but I think saftey and ease of use is much better with clipless. One of the first things I packed to come to the netherlands was some old SPDs and my walkable Lake shoes.

While I'd never go back to clips on any of my normal bikes, for an extra commuter or rain bike, (like this thread is about) they are perfectly fine.
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