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Old 02-28-06, 09:05 AM   #1
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Brakes are squishy

I'm getting a lot of flex in my breaking. I have 105 but the calipers are cheap no-name. I was wondering how much of the flex is coming from the cable and how much from the calipers. I put in koolstop pads so I can stop fine, but the levers almost bottom out even with very little brake pad clearance.
I'd gladly spend $20 or so for nice cables if that would fix it, but I'm not sure I want to spend $100-$150 on new calipers.
Will better cables fix a lot of this?
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Old 02-28-06, 10:32 AM   #2
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Check the adjustment of the caliper arms. If they are loose, it can cause loose brake feel.
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Old 02-28-06, 10:37 AM   #3
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Check the adjustment of the caliper arms. If they are loose, it can cause loose brake feel.
I was thinking the same thing. Had that problem on my bike last year - rear calipers were a bit loose, and tightening them up improved the brake feel.

Failing that, I'd go for new, quality cable (and housing) before new calipers.
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I suspect that most of the flex is in your calipers. It has often seemed to me that whenever a manufacturer is looking for a place to save a little money, the first thing they do is to spec cheap breaks. 105 calipers via Nashbar to match the rest of your bike are about $75.00 for front and rear.
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i've got them tightened up with very little clearance (not more than a mm on each side).
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Would these be a good bet. (Last years ultegra?) They don't have the toe-in adjustment, but they are a lot cheaper then the calipers with it.

http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.asp?id=18282
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It sounds like the quality of the calipers to me. Agreed with the above post, that manufacturers scrimp on the quality of brakes. I have a 2005 Trek 1000 that has no name basic quality (probably Tektro brand) brake calipers. They stop so-so. There is a big difference between these cheapies and quality Shimano 105 brakes. Personally I think that the only way to solve the problem is to replace the calipers with original 105's.
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Would these be a good bet. (Last years ultegra?) They don't have the toe-in adjustment, but they are a lot cheaper then the calipers with it.

http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.asp?id=18282
Yup. I think they'd be fine. Toe-in adjustment is seldom necessary with better quality road calipers.
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Should I get new cables while I'm at it? Jagwire cables look like they are under $5.
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Should I get new cables while I'm at it? Jagwire cables look like they are under $5.
Yup. Always get new cables. The ones that are on your bike now are probably frayed on the ends and will require the use of your full vocabulary to get installed properly. If you want to cheap out you can buy just 1 and cut the old rear cable off short to use on the front.
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Should I get new cables while I'm at it? Jagwire cables look like they are under $5.
Since you'll have them loose anyway, change the cables.

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They aren't frayed yet because they are new, but might as well replace them if I'm putting on new calipers.
Thanks everyone for the help.
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