Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. #1
    Senior Member toolboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
    My Bikes
    Steve Bauer Whirlwind, Nishiki International, Rocky Mountain Element 30 1984 Cinelli Super Corsa w/Campy 50th, Surly LHT.
    Posts
    312
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    VAR 996-PRO2 BB tool

    Has anyone had problems with the VAR sealed BB remover. It's the one with the spring and a dual threaded post that screws into Octalink and tapered spindles to supposedly hold the thing on without slipping. Mine slipped and stripped the end of the splines all around. Looking for ammunition in my expected dispute with the supplier.

  2. #2
    Klaatu barada nikto cascade168's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Southern NH
    Posts
    1,453
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by toolboy
    Has anyone had problems with the VAR sealed BB remover. It's the one with the spring and a dual threaded post that screws into Octalink and tapered spindles to supposedly hold the thing on without slipping. Mine slipped and stripped the end of the splines all around. Looking for ammunition in my expected dispute with the supplier.
    One thing that does not seem to be pointed out with those type of tools is that if you screw down the holding bolt tight on the side of the BB with the removable ring and then try to loosen the removable ring, what you are actually doing is continuing to tighten the holding bolt even more. If you do not stop and loosen the holding bolt a little then you will experience exactly what happenned to you. I had pretty much the same problem with the holding bolt gizmo that Pedro's makes, but I figured out what was happenning before I knackered anything.

    These tools are great for tightening BB's, but are problematic for removals. The way to use them for removal is to tighten the holding bolt only barely finger tight. Then turn the cup/ring removal tool about 10-15 degrees. You will find that the bolt just got tight. Loosen the holding bolt a little bit and then turn the cup/ring remover a little more. Gotta go back and forth - very carefully - or it will all tighten up again and you will strip either the axle threads, the ring splines, or both.

    I'm just curious, Toolboy, ..... Are there any directions that came with the tool and do they not say anything about this? Did you tighten the bolt down all the way? If so, there is no question that it will happen every time.

    For reference, here's the Pedros tool (see "BB Socket holder") :

    http://pedros.com/frames/tools.html
    "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
    - Oscar Wilde

  3. #3
    Senior Member toolboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
    My Bikes
    Steve Bauer Whirlwind, Nishiki International, Rocky Mountain Element 30 1984 Cinelli Super Corsa w/Campy 50th, Surly LHT.
    Posts
    312
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes, I understand the problem with most holding bolts and was happy to see the VAR tool had a spring-loaded bolt which seemed to solve this problem. It appears the spring pressure was not sufficient to hold the tool in properly and it stripped. No, there were not any instructions.


  4. #4
    Klaatu barada nikto cascade168's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Southern NH
    Posts
    1,453
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by toolboy
    Yes, I understand the problem with most holding bolts and was happy to see the VAR tool had a spring-loaded bolt which seemed to solve this problem. It appears the spring pressure was not sufficient to hold the tool in properly and it stripped. No, there were not any instructions.

    Holy cow! The splines on that tool really got buggered. Most tools that are made to loosen BB's or cassette lock rings or freewheels are (usually) made of hardenned steel. But, it's difficult to believe that an aluminum ring on a BB cartridge could do that kind of damage to that tool. Is it possible that the lock ring splines on the BB cartridge are not aluminum? I have not seen any that were not. If I were to argue about that tool, I'd want to know how they can make something like that an not harden it.
    "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
    - Oscar Wilde

  5. #5
    Senior Member toolboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
    My Bikes
    Steve Bauer Whirlwind, Nishiki International, Rocky Mountain Element 30 1984 Cinelli Super Corsa w/Campy 50th, Surly LHT.
    Posts
    312
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cascade168
    Is it possible that the lock ring splines on the BB cartridge are not aluminum?
    The one I have is definitely a steel shell with a plastic lock ring on the other side. You know, one would think that if the tool was indeed hardened it would shatter instead of rounding off. But I'm no metalurgist. Oddly enough, all the other VAR tools I own are clearly marked with their logo - not this one - hmmmmmm!

    Edit: Just spoke to dealer - warranty not a problem.
    Last edited by toolboy; 04-07-06 at 10:15 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •