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    Just give me the list of tools for the bb & cranks! Please.

    Alright - this might be simple. Went to Harris Cycle to check into a crank and bb tool removal unit. I know I need a few things, but with a variety of different items, can someone tell me exactly what I need.
    I have two bikes with ultegra cranks and bb's. I also have two older bikes, Trek 460( I think sake? cranks) and a univega superstrada with vintage dura ace parts - including cranks.
    I guess those would be the bikes I would work on most, however, Im in the learning stretch on a lot of this and would like to tool on other bikes from time to time. Is there a certain set of tools that would cover my needs? Not looking to break the bank, but I would like to continue adding to my tool collection. Thanks

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    I don't think anybody sells a complete BB kit, but you need the following:

    -Crank puller (lots of different ones, I like the lifu/performance version but the park one is of course great)
    -Splined bottom bracket tool for the modern BB's (Park BBT-2)
    -A lockring tool for the old cone and cup BB's (The park HCW-5 is junk, the hozan version is great but expensive, the hozan pliers are also great, and if you have a grinder you can get the best of all worlds by grinding a $4 set of channel lock pliers)
    -A wrench to fit the adjusting cup on your older BB's. (Some of them use a pin spanner. I pretty much get by with SPA-1 and -4 pin spanners and a good quality 12" adjustable, but some people get the howling fantods when they see an adjustable)
    -A wrench for your fixed cup on the old stuff (same story as above, I would add that a $30 cartridge bottom bracket for the 460 might be a better buy than any specific tools for dealing with its old BB, though if you want to keep up the old dura ace one who knows)
    -8mm allen/14mm socket with torque wrench for putting cranks back on.

    I'm sure others will chime in if I have missed anything.

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    You may not need an extractor for the Ultegra cranks. If they have the screw in caps that have holes that you can see the allen bolts through, they are self extracting. You just back the crank bolt out against the cap. This pushes the crank off.

    As far as the 12" Adjustable - AAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!
    The Park tool will accept a ratchet or breaker bar. They also make wrenches big enough to fit. It is just that with one or two slips, you booger up the tool. Of course, that is why Landgolier said "good quality...". You also have to know which way an adjustable wrench goes on. They had a Craftsman commercial on a while back, talking about "professional quality". The dork was using an adjustable wench the wrong way.

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    Oh, I meant the adjustable for the multitude of wacky adjustable BB cups that are found on older road bikes, not for turning the splined BB tool. I don't own all of the various wrench sizes for them because I really only work on them on friends' beaters; I figure if I'm going to ride a bike often enough to be worth buying a wrench for it I might as well just buy a sealed BB for it for $10 more, as I suggested to the OP. I kind of assumed that he would have some kind of driver for the BB tool.

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    Channel Lock Pliers?

    What type of grinding job did you do on the channel lock pliers? Does anyone have a pickture of this DYI tool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landgolier
    Oh, I meant the adjustable for the multitude of wacky adjustable BB cups that are found on older road bikes, not for turning the splined BB tool. I don't own all of the various wrench sizes for them because I really only work on them on friends' beaters; I figure if I'm going to ride a bike often enough to be worth buying a wrench for it I might as well just buy a sealed BB for it for $10 more, as I suggested to the OP. I kind of assumed that he would have some kind of driver for the BB tool.
    Ah. I misunderstood.

    I remember borrowing a spring compressor, for a car from a friend. It had a long rod threaded on one end with a hex portion in the center and reverse threads on the other, and threaded hooks for the spring. He said "See those flat spots, that is NOT where the vice grips go. That is not where the crescent wrench goes. It is where the hex wrench goes. If anything other than a hex wrench goes on those flats, a crescent wrench goes upside your head. Which is about all they are good for."

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    I can't for the life of me find a pic of the homegrown lock ring pliers, and mine got sold because someone liked them so much they gave me a lot of good beer for a $4 tool, but basically you need to grind away part of the jaws so that you just leave two little teeth out at the end that will go into the lock ring notches. I remember somebody made a set by just laying an old lock ring on top of the pliers, blasting it with spray paint, and grinding off everything that didn't get painted. Set them up so they grip 240* of a three notch lock ring (as in they go all the way around and the third notch is inside the jaws, man that's hard to explain), and they will work on two notch fixed gear lock rings as well.

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    DYI Channel Lock Pliers

    I have an old set of pliers and the next time I have access to a grinder I will try my hand at making a set of lock ring pliers. Now I use regular channel lock (pump tool) pliers wrapped in an old rag to do a bit of adjusting. But it sounds as if the DYI set would be great for breaking the ring. Thanks for the reply.

    David

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