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Old 04-19-06, 01:24 AM   #1
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Putting master pin back in

So on my old bike I just used SRAM missing link. Unfortenatly this option is not available for 10 speeds. I removed the master pin,so I can clean the chain off bike. I put a new one back in, but the problem is I can't seem to be able to snap off the extra bit that is sticking out. I tried pliers, but it's not working out. What do you guys and gals use?

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So on my old bike I just used SRAM missing link. Unfortenatly this option is not available for 10 speeds. I removed the master pin,so I can clean the chain off bike. I put a new one back in, but the problem is I can't seem to be able to snap off the extra bit that is sticking out. I tried pliers, but it's not working out. What do you guys and gals use?

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If you have it seated to the correct depth, the guide portion should snap right off with a moderate amount of pressure using standard pliers. I would suspect there may be a problem besides arm strength.
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I'm pretty sure it's at corrct dept. On the other side the pin is pretty level with a link, It's not sticking out. Problem is keeping a chain from bending, while applying pressure.
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I'm pretty sure it's at corrct dept. On the other side the pin is pretty level with a link, It's not sticking out. Problem is keeping a chain from bending, while applying pressure.
Apply the pressure along the length of the chain.
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Did you really remove the "master" pin? That pin is to be installed once and never used again. If you want to remove the chain, you remove a "plain" pin and replace it with another specific replacement pin.

Both master and replacement pins are to be installed once each.
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Yep, you don't keep removing/installing "master" pins, or more accurately, replacement pins. You gotta go to another link with a standard pin and remove that one. Then you need to drive in a replacement pin. Shimano chains come with 2 replacement pins. Best advice is to clean your chain while it's on the bike. I only remove a chain once...and that's to put it in the junker when worn out.
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Yes, they can be a bit difficult to break off. You may have one that is not cut as deep as some. If you don't have a lot of "squeeze" strength, you may want to use a vice grip.
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FYI; Connex makes a 10 speed quick disconnect link.
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Did you really remove the "master" pin? That pin is to be installed once and never used again. If you want to remove the chain, you remove a "plain" pin and replace it with another specific replacement pin.

Both master and replacement pins are to be installed once each.
Oops, yeah I removed that pin, and then put the replacement pin in it's place (I threw the pin I removed away). Does that present a problem?
As for Missing links, I frased it wrong. They do exist for 10 speeds, but when I posted asking about them (see my KMC thread), I got a lot of negative feedback. Which was really suprising.
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Oops, yeah I removed that pin, and then put the replacement pin in it's place (I threw the pin I removed away). Does that present a problem?
As for Missing links, I frased it wrong. They do exist for 10 speeds, but when I posted asking about them (see my KMC thread), I got a lot of negative feedback. Which was really suprising.
Be careful that you didn't bend the links when you removed the master pin - i would rebreak the chain and replace the links and pin (I did so with an Ult 10sp chain). The ends are tapered so when forced out can (and probably did) damage the link - the chain could break under load. For a replacement link replace the chain and use the extra links (save the rest of the chain for replacement time) or use a powerlink/wipperman and new replacement pins. May cost some money - but better than it breaking when you are pounding the cranks.
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I use Superlink in Shimano 10 speed chain, no problems yet -

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