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    Complete bike nooby is looking for information on maintenance

    [edit]:I found parktool.com which is a good site, the only thing I'm worrying about now is water and my bike.

    What happens when the drivetrain gets soaked? Or other parks of the chain/gear system? Do you just dry it as much as possible? Should I avoid doing this, to begin with? I need some info on water and bike maintenance
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    Get fenders.

    Obviously water plus moving parts is seldom a good thing...however, you'll find that for the most part your bike will handle this quite well. Just regularly clean, and lube the drivetrain as required. If you have a sealed bottom bracket (kinda standard now), you shouldn't have any problems there, either.

    Some of the biggest water related damage is stuff kicked up by your tires, particularly the front. Fenders are for your bike, not for you, by the way. (Well, a bit for you...) Your front tire can fling wet dirt into your drivetrain, as well as water and muck up into your headset. Look under your front fork; there's probably a large hole there going up into your headset. That's were the muck is going.
    Good night...and good luck

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    Ok..Hmm...Do you know where I should start looking in order to find fenders that will fit my bike? Or what brands will fit my bike? And how much, roughly, would front and rear fenders cost me? Thanks

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    Fenders are going to keep water and mud from being flung off the tires onto you… it will collect that water and drop it right onto the frame and drive train of the bike.

    Your drive train is NOT going to be hurt by water unless you don’t maintain it. WD40 is designed to displace water and leave a slight protective coating. If you use this along with a good chain lube after wet rides and don’t leave the bike out in the elements for extended periods without a chance to dry out then you should have no problems.

    There is a caveat to this advice. If you live near the ocean you must take extra care because of the salt air. If you have a bike made from low carbon steel you must always dry it after a wet ride, or it will rust.

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    Ok so after every wet ride I should completely spray the dirt off of the chain and drivechain of the bike with WD40, and then apply a chain lubricant? (this seems ALOT easier than having to buy a "chain cleaner" (is this even worth it?))

    Also - is WD40 a good way clean my chain/drivetrain on a regullar basis (say, with a toothbrush, as well?)

    thanks!

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    Its what I do, I have been riding for a very long time and have always done my own maintenance and building. I was shown this method by my mentor Sean Bullock.

    There are many that disagree with my methods in favor of their own but I look at it this way. There is more than one way to skin a cat and their are lots of truly messed up cats out there.

    I don’t use a toothbrush I just spray; a brush drives the grit in deeper. (Those plastic chain cleaners are just silly) Don’t let the WD-40 drip onto your wheels rim. I do this with the bike in a work stand so I can angle the bike and the wheels are free to turn. I wipe off with old used terry towels I buy from a local laundry. (They have been washed hundreds of times so there is no lint) I use a folded over edge between the cogs and ratchet back and forth to remove all the grit. Then I lube with tri-flow. I dispense lube onto the traveling chain for its whole length and then shift back and forth through the entire cluster catching the expelled excess oil with a rag.

    The rest of the bike I clean with Windex.

    About every 10 or so rides I take the chain off and soak it in a ultrasonic tank with circulated mild solvent. I have three chains that get rotated. One is hanging ready to be installed, one is soaking and the other is on the bike. I am not recommending you need to do this; it is just the way I do it.

    The road bikes I used to race on have waxed chains and don’t get ridden much any more. Maybe an occasional century. But that doesn’t mean I don’t still love and care for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWind
    Fenders are going to keep water and mud from being flung off the tires onto you… it will collect that water and drop it right onto the frame and drive train of the bike.
    I will respectfully disagree with this. The silly "flipper" type fenders that alot of MTBs sport will probably do this. Full coverage fenders, like Freddies or SKS Commuters keep water and muck off both you AND your bike.
    Good night...and good luck

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    I will give you continual homage if you can show how any type of fender will keep your bike frame and drive train DRY in wet weather.

    Given the fact that only so much water will stick to a given sold surface and that once that threshold has been reached you loose. Lets say a two hour long ride in a light drizzle and completely soaked ground.

    I am not saying fenders don’t work to protect the rider from getting sprayed with what is shed from the tires but the OP is about how water will affect his drive train.

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    I suppose I should have clarified. Of course, in wet conditions, the addition of fenders will not keep your bike dry. However, muck water coming UP from the road is of far greater concern to me (and usually greater quantities too) than precipitation falling DOWN on the road and my bike.

    Look at the underside of your fenders after a wet commute, and see the dirt/crap/etc. That would have wound up on your downtube, kicked back into your chain, flung up into your headset, and yes...splattered all over you.

    Of course, that's not 100% of the crap you ran through...but it's a pretty good amount, and I think that can save a lot of wear on your bike.
    Good night...and good luck

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    Uh oh it looks like one of my brake pads has worn past the rim lip a tad bit. Do you think it's ok to just re-position it and let it wear down the excess lip that's now on the brakepad?

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    My wheels wobble very very slightly, maybe like 1-2 millimeters. does this mean my wheels are not "true?"

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    I would replace the pads.




    When you spin the wheel or when you move it sideways with your hand? if first, yes. If second, then its your axel.

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    It has zero play side to side - this is only when i move the wheel (spin it) that i notice this. The brakes do not rub, either.

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    Then maybe your tire is just not seated in the rim perfectly.

    Let about half the air out, than section by section work your way around the wheel trying to role the tire off to the side with the palms of your hands. Go all around pushing hard in one direction then around again pushing the tire off in the other direction. This will pull the bead tight to the rim all the way around. Now re-inflate and spin to see if it made a difference.

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    Hmmmmmmm ok I'll try that once I get the bike.

    Right now it's at the shop because I fooled around w/ the front derailler thinking I could adjust it, but I messed it up, and just gave up and brought it to the lbs to fix. *blush*

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    1-2 millimeters? dont touch a thing, thats as good as it will ever be.

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    Yeah so I was just about to go take my first ride, a night ride actually, and I was in such a hurry that I left my front tire leaning on my back bumper of my car when I put my bike in my car (no bike rack yet) and I got in and backed over my front tire, completely bending the skewer and messing up the hub, because i forgot the tire was there...

    I am such a ****ing DUMBASS.

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Now I have to go buy a rim (the tire isn't punctured or anything)

    The rim is a 26" Mavic X139 and the hub is nothing special, just a normal hub it seems

    Will I be able to buy only one rim?

    How much will it cost?

    ****! I feel like smacking my dumb self right now

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