Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-08-06, 12:01 PM   #1
becnal
I'm made of earth!
Thread Starter
 
becnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Bikes: Raleigh Aspen touring/off-road hybrid, and a Bob Yak trailer. Yak very useful for us car-free types that like to buy lots of beer.
Posts: 2,012
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I started volunteering at my lbs today and ...

I would like to know some tips the lbs would like me to know but may not want to have to tell me.

I went in today and told them I was interested in helping out at the store, without any pay, so that I could learn from my mechanic about bikes and how to fix them. Everyone at the shop is great, all very friendly, and they also realise I am not a local. The language difference isn't an issue.

So, I do know that if I'm not being immediately helpful, I should stay out of the way. This I know from working behind a bar.

Any other tips for a wanna-be amateur mechanic?
becnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 12:40 PM   #2
masi61
Senior Member
 
masi61's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SW Ohio
Bikes: Puch Marco Polo, Saint Tropez, Masi Gran Criterium
Posts: 1,112
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You might want to start slowly aquiring your own tools. Even though they're all really friendly and everything, they might appreciate it if you could supply some of your own tools like allen wrenches, and metric wrenches and things like that. Just curious, what's your "regular" job. How many hours a week do you plan to "volunteer". If it were me I'd volunteer for like 2 hours and after that I would ask, "Where's the timeclock, and how much do I start out at?
masi61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 12:53 PM   #3
powers2b
Listen to me
 
powers2b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lexus Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 2,789
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I am surprised they are OK with that.
If you get hurt in the shop they are liable.

Enjoy
powers2b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 12:59 PM   #4
Cabrales
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Looks like Becnal is in Germany. Is it possible people there are not as concerned with liability issues?
Cabrales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 04:26 PM   #5
mirona
I can't find my pants
 
mirona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: UMASS, Amherst/ Swick, MA
Bikes: 07 Specialized Langster Comp,06 Kona King Zing, 06 Specialized Rockhopper Pro Disc; 03 LOOK KG461;(destroyed by suv); 85 Panasonic Team America; 73 Peugeot U0-8; 94 Balance Super B BMX; 04 Diamondback Outlook MTB, Diamondback DBR DH
Posts: 2,331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Get your own tools, stay out of everyone's way, don't eat all the blueberry muffins, break down the boxes, don't eat all the coffee cake muffins.

Ask questions, but don't be annoying and breathing down everyone's neck.
mirona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 04:43 PM   #6
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Rans Rockst (Retro rocket) Rans Enduro Sport (Retro racket) Catrike 559, Merin Bear Valley (beater bike).
Posts: 26,492
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by becnal
Any other tips for a wanna-be amateur mechanic?
Offer to clean all of the yucky chains and chainrings and stuff. The mechanics will love you.
Retro Grouch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 04:46 PM   #7
Waldo
Zippy Engineer
 
Waldo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: IN
Bikes: Bianchi 928, Bianchi Pista Concept 2004, Surly Steamroller, 1998 Schwinn Factory Team Homegrown, 1999 Schwinn Homegrown Factory, 2000 Schwinn Panther, Niner EMD9
Posts: 1,801
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Offer to clean all of the yucky chains and chainrings and stuff. The mechanics will love you.
Definitely. Flat tire fixes could be your friend also. Can't really come up with anything to suppliment what others have said so far.
Waldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 05:45 PM   #8
CHenry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Bikes: A bunch
Posts: 892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Since you are working without pay for the benefit of learning, you might want to log your jobs done for the benefit of keeping track of your experience. It is nice to have something to go back to if you have questions. Doing the crap jobs for pay might just be part of the job; you should be looking to see and do more than that if this is on your dime.
CHenry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-06, 11:23 PM   #9
becnal
I'm made of earth!
Thread Starter
 
becnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Bikes: Raleigh Aspen touring/off-road hybrid, and a Bob Yak trailer. Yak very useful for us car-free types that like to buy lots of beer.
Posts: 2,012
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My LBS is a giant shop. They are a nation-wide chain across Germany called Bikemax.

They have more tools than I have ever seen before, and many more than 2 of most of the tools. I have only a couple of basic tools, but I'll bring my multi-tool so that at least I'll be able to use allen keys and other stuff without needing theirs. Good tip!

And yes, being outside of America, liability issues aren't a problem. When I asked my mechanic, Volker, if I could help out, he said, "Hell yeah". I asked him if he didn't need to check with the manager first or something. The manager walked in a second later, Volker told him my request, and the manager said, "Hell yeah". I though, well that's settled then!
becnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-06, 03:51 AM   #10
Wil Davis
Curmudgeon
 
Wil Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Nausea, New Hamster
Bikes: (see http://wildavis.smugmug.com/Bikes) Bianchi Veloce (2005), Nishiki Cascade (1992), Schwinn Super Sport (1983)
Posts: 1,572
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by becnal
snipů
When I asked my mechanic, Volker, if I could help out, he said, "Hell yeah". I asked him if he didn't need to check with the manager first or something. The manager walked in a second later, Volker told him my request, and the manager said, "Hell yeah"
ůsnip
Sign in local garage:

Our rates:
We will charge you $50 per hour to fix your car, $75 if you watch, $100 if you help



- Wil
Wil Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-06, 12:07 PM   #11
operator
cab horn
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Posts: 28,306
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Volunteering in a for-profit store? These things can be better learned yourself when you fix your own bike. But hey if you have time to spare...
operator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-06, 11:02 PM   #12
schwinnderella
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 366
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
labor rates

We will charge you $50 per hour to fix your car, $75 if you watch, $100 if you help


$125.00 if you worked on it before they got it.
schwinnderella is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-06, 11:12 PM   #13
AfterThisNap
Taking "s" outta "Fast"
 
AfterThisNap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Zoo York City
Bikes:
Posts: 1,989
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I bet they speak the universal language of beer.
AfterThisNap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-06, 11:24 PM   #14
raverson
Senior Member
 
raverson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: beautiful Chehalis, Wa. 98532
Bikes:
Posts: 1,361
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
When I asked my mechanic, Volker, if I could help out, he said, "Hell yeah". I asked him if he didn't need to check with the manager first or something. The manager walked in a second later, Volker told him my request, and the manager said, "Hell yeah". I though, well that's settled then! [/QUOTE]

That is funny!
raverson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-06, 10:38 AM   #15
becnal
I'm made of earth!
Thread Starter
 
becnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Bikes: Raleigh Aspen touring/off-road hybrid, and a Bob Yak trailer. Yak very useful for us car-free types that like to buy lots of beer.
Posts: 2,012
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Cool, I learned how to true wheels yesterday. I knew how in theory, but they let me have a go on their fab shop truing stand. And, bonus, they let me true my own wheels as well. Then, the mechanic said to me, "Anytime you wanna fix something on your bike, just roll it on in. It's all well and good learning about bikes in general, but getting to know yours in and out is the way to go."

I thought I had died and went to bike shop heaven.
becnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-06, 01:01 PM   #16
mirona
I can't find my pants
 
mirona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: UMASS, Amherst/ Swick, MA
Bikes: 07 Specialized Langster Comp,06 Kona King Zing, 06 Specialized Rockhopper Pro Disc; 03 LOOK KG461;(destroyed by suv); 85 Panasonic Team America; 73 Peugeot U0-8; 94 Balance Super B BMX; 04 Diamondback Outlook MTB, Diamondback DBR DH
Posts: 2,331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by becnal
Cool, I learned how to true wheels yesterday. I knew how in theory, but they let me have a go on their fab shop truing stand. And, bonus, they let me true my own wheels as well. Then, the mechanic said to me, "Anytime you wanna fix something on your bike, just roll it on in. It's all well and good learning about bikes in general, but getting to know yours in and out is the way to go."

I thought I had died and went to bike shop heaven.
That's how the guys at my shop were to me and now I work there
mirona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-06, 12:42 PM   #17
acorn_user
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
Bikes: Dawes Kalahari, Puch Prima Super Sport, Graham Weigh 853
Posts: 1,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you are in Germany, they will love you if you let them practice their English on you. Just don't let them do it too much, or you'll never polish you German! No one likes to lose the luxury of having an English native speaker to hand
Dave
acorn_user is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-06, 11:33 PM   #18
becnal
I'm made of earth!
Thread Starter
 
becnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Bikes: Raleigh Aspen touring/off-road hybrid, and a Bob Yak trailer. Yak very useful for us car-free types that like to buy lots of beer.
Posts: 2,012
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by acorn_user
If you are in Germany, they will love you if you let them practice their English on you.
Not everyone is so eager to speak a foreign language in their own country.
becnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-06, 11:54 PM   #19
KrisPistofferson
Immoderator
 
KrisPistofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: POS Tennessee
Bikes: Gary Fisher Simple City 8, Litespeed Obed
Posts: 7,630
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Be like I was when I started working in an auto shop with no experience-I was clueless, but I was also the guy who was the first to grab a mop or a full garbage can. After a while, I was still clueless, but everyone liked me well enough for my work ethic to want to spend time showing me stuff, and my boss started sending me to schools in Knoxville and Atlanta. Be humble, patient and work hard-it's called a "work ethic," and it's starting to become a rare thing....
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bikeforums
Your rights end where another poster's feelings begin.
KrisPistofferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-06, 11:15 PM   #20
bellweatherman
Senior Member
 
bellweatherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Austin
Bikes: Too many to count
Posts: 2,103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
bellweatherman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-06, 11:50 PM   #21
becnal
I'm made of earth!
Thread Starter
 
becnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Bikes: Raleigh Aspen touring/off-road hybrid, and a Bob Yak trailer. Yak very useful for us car-free types that like to buy lots of beer.
Posts: 2,012
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bellweatherman
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
Thanks for the helpful tip that so well answers my original post.
becnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-06, 12:09 AM   #22
ceridwen
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 222
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bellweatherman
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
Except that working on your own bike requires tools, which a lot of us don't have, taking it from $0 to "way too much to afford" pretty quickly. Not to mention how much easier and more fun it can be to learn from someone who knows what they are doing compared to learning from a website with no one around to help out if you get stuck.
ceridwen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-06, 01:14 AM   #23
mrkott3r
Senior Member
 
mrkott3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Newcastle Australia
Bikes:
Posts: 1,185
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Man what a good opportunity! I wouldnt have the balls to ask my lbs that, I doubt that they would agree either.

If it was me I would shut up, watch, listen, and learn. Be very selective in your questions. Questions piss people off.

Have a great time learning. Im stuck with online stuff, the aussie thread and just tooling around figuring out stuff as I need to.
mrkott3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-06, 04:36 AM   #24
bellweatherman
Senior Member
 
bellweatherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Austin
Bikes: Too many to count
Posts: 2,103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceridwen
Except that working on your own bike requires tools, which a lot of us don't have, taking it from $0 to "way too much to afford" pretty quickly. Not to mention how much easier and more fun it can be to learn from someone who knows what they are doing compared to learning from a website with no one around to help out if you get stuck.

You have a bike. Get some tools. Got a computer. Get some software. Wear a bra. Get some panties. And so on.
bellweatherman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-06, 06:49 AM   #25
becnal
I'm made of earth!
Thread Starter
 
becnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Bikes: Raleigh Aspen touring/off-road hybrid, and a Bob Yak trailer. Yak very useful for us car-free types that like to buy lots of beer.
Posts: 2,012
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrkott3r
Man what a good opportunity! I wouldnt have the balls to ask my lbs that, I doubt that they would agree either.
No balls were needed to ask. Was just a question. The worst that could have happened was they say no. In which case, I would have to go buy a computer, software and, apparently, a bra, for some strange reason.
becnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:27 PM.