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Old 05-22-06, 08:41 AM   #1
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Campy 8 speed Ergo pre 2001 w/9 speed rear derailleur

Hi all,

Will an 8 speed Campy Ergo pre-2001 lever work with a 9-speed Record derailleur (and 8 speed cassette, obviously)? I've read conflicting things about both the speed matching and pre-2001 levers with more recent derailleurs.

Also, is it true that I need a Campy 9-speed chain for this setup, even with the 8-speed gearing?

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Old 05-22-06, 08:45 AM   #2
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Hi all,

Will an 8 speed Campy Ergo pre-2001 lever work with a 9-speed Record derailleur (and 8 speed cassette, obviously)? I've read conflicting things about both the speed matching and pre-2001 levers with more recent derailleurs.

Also, is it true that I need a Campy 9-speed chain for this setup, even with the 8-speed gearing?

Thanks!

John Magee
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Yes if the derailleur is also a pre-2001. If not performance will be less than perfect. Some members will say that it works great. In my experience the results were not so good. The only way to do it is to try yourself. Good luck

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You can rebuild an ergo lever to go from 8 spd to 9 spd. Where the problem is lies with the hub body. The older 8spd cassettes won't fit the newer 9spd cassette hub bodies. On some of the hubs you can swap out the hub body for a 9spd. I did that on a set of wheels recently and everything worked out well. Go to www.Branfordbike.com and he has the technical information on what one can do to stay with 8spd cassettes and ergo shifters using the new hub bodies and a combination of spacers and 9 spd cogs. Branford is a great place for campy tech info.
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You can rebuild an ergo lever to go from 8 spd to 9 spd. Where the problem is lies with the hub body. The older 8spd cassettes won't fit the newer 9spd cassette hub bodies. On some of the hubs you can swap out the hub body for a 9spd. I did that on a set of wheels recently and everything worked out well. Go to www.Branfordbike.com and he has the technical information on what one can do to stay with 8spd cassettes and ergo shifters using the new hub bodies and a combination of spacers and 9 spd cogs. Branford is a great place for campy tech info.
Did the same thing on a really nice set of Chorus/OP wheels. It worked great and I ride them all the time. Deanster04 is asking about using a post 2001 der with 8 speed brifters though. I tried it, but the results were less than perfect. 8 speed Campy rear der's are getting hard to find and expensive. JTEK said their #1 Shiftmate can be used on post 2001 rear der's and 8 speed brifters. Call them up and get the specifics. I haven't tried so I can't say. We Campy lovers don't have too many options left to keep our 8 speeds running. Good luck.

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I am currently running a pair of 1998 Campy Avanti brifters with a Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur and campy 8 speed cassette. It works perfectly. I mean perfectly.
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It is iteresting how indexed gear systems have donkeyfied people and limited tecnology. I used friction shifters and I made some "sensational" combinations. One example I may say, is that to help someone on the road, I used a simple shimano SIS $2 derreuiller to replace a dereuiller on a drivetrain campagnolo mirage that came apart. And surprise surprise, it worked, even with mirage ergoshifters!
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