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Old 06-19-06, 03:45 AM
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Tiagra hub quality

I am building a bike for my son. Mostly casual riding and an ocassional longer ride. Nashbar has some Tiagra hub/Mavic wheelsets on sale. Being a Campy guy, I have very little knowledge on the lower end Shimano parts. All I know is that they are cheap at under $130 complete. Are they any good for the intended use or should we look at 105 or Ultegra? I don't mind repacking loose ball bearings if they aren't sealed bearing units either.

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I have an older version of that set on my GT, I put in a lot more than your intended use and they work just fine.
I think it's a great choice, however take a peek at perfomance, about every other week you can catch a pretty good deal there as well.
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I have a Sora front hub in my fixed gear bicycle, and so far so good. Anyhow, I only rode so far 250 km

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I have put schloads of winter miles on my Tiagra hubbed Alex wheels over the past 4 years with not one problem.
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Sounds encouraging so far. Looks like this will be the next purchase. Thanks for all the replies.


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I'm training and racing on Sora hubs at the moment and they work flawlessly. I repacked them from new and when you spin them you feel just a slight amount of roughness but honestly I don't feel that they're holding me back at all. Shimano quality is top rate and being Shimano they are loose ball bearing hubs which is fine in my book.

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Heck, I've got 2200 hubs (below Sora) on my commuter bike and so far (700 miles) they're just fine. When I repack them this winter I may put in better bearings, but heck.
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Originally Posted by AnthonyG
I'm training and racing on Sora hubs at the moment and they work flawlessly. I repacked them from new and when you spin them you feel just a slight amount of roughness but honestly I don't feel that they're holding me back at all. Shimano quality is top rate and being Shimano they are loose ball bearing hubs which is fine in my book.

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Might those be adjusted a little too tight then? I'm not saying you don't know how, but just in case, make sure the hubs have axle play prior to QR tightening. The QR should just barely remove the axle play. When the hub is off the bike, it should feel silky smooth.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Might those be adjusted a little too tight then? I'm not saying you don't know how, but just in case, make sure the hubs have axle play prior to QR tightening. The QR should just barely remove the axle play. When the hub is off the bike, it should feel silky smooth.
Yes I've adjusted the bearings with a little play when off the bike so when you tighten the QR its just right. Its pretty good realy but its not as smooth as Ultega or Dura-Ace. I'm not saying that Sora hubs are slowing me down but you don't get something for nothing.

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I wouldnt worry about the quality of the hubs unless your son weighs >250 lb
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Though this thread already has lots of good replies, I want to add that Tiagra hubs are excellent, their seals are derived from MTB tech and are ideal for commuting, and I did so for four years on them, mid-2002 until April 06. To get a sense of how low-end Shimano hubs wear,
I bought a Trek hybrid in 1994 with the Alivio group. The hubs had 5500 miles when I sold it in 2002. The current owner has put on another 4100 approx. as of the last time felt the hubs last September. They felt really good, and I never even put in more grease, so say nothing of new bearings. Now, I don't do that anymore, I'm a maintenance nut. But... hey.. not bad.
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Originally Posted by cs1
I am building a bike for my son. Mostly casual riding and an ocassional longer ride. Nashbar has some Tiagra hub/Mavic wheelsets on sale. Being a Campy guy, I have very little knowledge on the lower end Shimano parts. All I know is that they are cheap at under $130 complete. Are they any good for the intended use or should we look at 105 or Ultegra? I don't mind repacking loose ball bearings if they aren't sealed bearing units either.
In my opinion Tiagra hubs are superior to all non Shimano hubs except Phil Wood. Shimano hubs are unequalled.

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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
In my opinion Tiagra hubs are superior to all non Shimano hubs except Phil Wood. Shimano hubs are unequalled.
I have an old set of Deore hubs, original equipment, on my 1990 Specialized Rockhopper Comp. They've been rebuilt several times and are truly a good set of hubs. Still, they aren't anywhere near as beautiful or smooth as a set of Campy SR wheels I've stashed away. I make it a point never to publically disagree with an acknowledged expert.

Still, in this case I'll have to agree to disagree on Tiagra hubs being in the same league as Campagnolo loose ball hubs. Thanks for the endorsement though. I will probably pick up a set of those wheels.


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Originally Posted by cs1
I have an old set of Deore hubs, original equipment, on my 1990 Specialized Rockhopper Comp. They've been rebuilt several times and are truly a good set of hubs. Still, they aren't anywhere near as beautiful or smooth as a set of Campy SR wheels I've stashed away. I make it a point never to publically disagree with an acknowledged expert.

Still, in this case I'll have to agree to disagree on Tiagra hubs being in the same league as Campagnolo loose ball hubs. Thanks for the endorsement though. I will probably pick up a set of those wheels.
As far as bearing quality I agree that Campagnolo Record (actually no such thing as "SR" hubs) are in a class by themselves. They're also really purty!

However the superiority of the cassette Freehub system over the old-fashioned thread-on freewheel system is so marked that there's no comparison, for derailer applications.

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Originally Posted by AndrewP
I wouldnt worry about the quality of the hubs unless your son weighs >250 lb
I don't know the specifc wheels (and the link is empty so I think they are sold out) but I ride 36 spoke wheels with low end Shimano hubs, and have put > 2,000 miles on them. I weigh > 300 lb... No wheel problems other than one broken spoke over the three years I have been riding it.
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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
As far as bearing quality I agree that Campagnolo Record (actually no such thing as "SR" hubs) are in a class by themselves. They're also really purty!

However the superiority of the cassette Freehub system over the old-fashioned thread-on freewheel system is so marked that there's no comparison, for derailer applications.

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I have to agree about the Shimano freehub design. It is nice to not have to chase the pawls and springs all over when you take the freehub off.

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ive got the mavic/tiagra setup, and Im doing 125 mi. a week in a sandy area...no problems...go with them.
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