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Old 07-07-06, 11:44 AM   #1
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Changing a tube with no tools. I never knew.

Just sort of a comment here, not a question.

We went out to ride the other evening and my wife's bike had a flat. I figured our ride was cancelled at that point. I popped off the wheel, grabbed the tire and pulled it off with just the use of my hands. It was very easy. I never knew it was possible to get a tire off with zero tools. Stuck a new tube in it, put the tire back on the rim(again with only my hands/fingers), aired it up and put the wheel back on the bike. Total repair time was probably 5 minutes. Wife couldn't believe it was fixed that quick. Got to go riding afterall. Learn something new every day I guess.
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Old 07-07-06, 11:50 AM   #2
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Just sort of a comment here, not a question.

We went out to ride the other evening and my wife's bike had a flat. I figured our ride was cancelled at that point. I popped off the wheel, grabbed the tire and pulled it off with just the use of my hands. It was very easy. I never knew it was possible to get a tire off with zero tools. Stuck a new tube in it, put the tire back on the rim(again with only my hands/fingers), aired it up and put the wheel back on the bike. Total repair time was probably 5 minutes. Wife couldn't believe it was fixed that quick. Got to go riding afterall. Learn something new every day I guess.
That's the way to do it

Some tire/rim combos are tighter than others... I still rarely use tire levers, and I never bring them with me on rides unless I'm currently riding a set that fits tightly.
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Old 07-07-06, 12:02 PM   #3
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I've been told that this was possible for all bikes. I believe it is possible for some but definately not all. I could probably do this with my mountain bike but even with tire levers, I have to really work at it to get a tread onto my road bike.
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Half the time I don't even bother to remove the wheel or tire to fix flats.
I just pull the section of tube out that I need to work on.
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Old 07-07-06, 12:41 PM   #5
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On tires that dont fit tight, espically MTB tires, not tools are needed. Unless you are weak, like me.
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Old 07-07-06, 12:44 PM   #6
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also, tires that are broken in tend to be much easier to get on/off than brand new ones.
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Try that with some 700c mavics on new continetal tires.. GOOD F*ing LUCK!
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Old 07-07-06, 03:18 PM   #8
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That's the way to do it

Some tire/rim combos are tighter than others... I still rarely use tire levers, and I never bring them with me on rides unless I'm currently riding a set that fits tightly.
Considering that plastic levers weight about 1g each, and take up almost no room, it's easiest to just keep a set in the trunk*, then if you find you need 'em you have 'em. Like maybe when you decide to stop and help that person of the appropriate gender who has a flat.


*The trunk, that's what I call my underseat bag, contains a set of levers, a spoke wrench (the triangular Park, multi-sized one),a set of allen keys, patch kit, spare tube, a small jack knife and a pair of needlenose pliers, sometimes wallet and keys end up there as well. I keep a bike pump on the bike too. I'll add a chain tool one of these days as well.....

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Old 07-07-06, 05:30 PM   #9
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Try that with some 700c mavics on new continetal tires.. GOOD F*ing LUCK!
or brand new Armadillo All conditions 23X 700's
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If you forgot tire levers, the quick release lever will work.
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We use a lot of different tires on the "fleet" of police bikes, and I'm forever refurbishing and repairing others.

Quality MTB tires are usually pretty easy. I can almost always get 'em off with just one lever and a couple of quick swipes to the side. Re-mount with no tools at all.
Some cheapies (notoriously Kenda) are very difficult to dismount, as they have very stiff beads and sidewalls. I have broken tire levers on these.

I find quality road tires can be muscled on by hand, but it's a lot of work. I usually manage it, but it leaves my elderly fingers aching.

Occasionally, I'll work on an older bike where the tire is almost glued to the rim, and the tube likewise to the tire. Don't know what causes this, but they are a pain to get loose. (no, Virginia, I am not talking about sew-ups )
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Must have been a not-too-old 26" rim.
Back in the day, I patched many, many 27" tubes using my Scout kinfe and the cheapie stamped cone wrench that came with my Atala. Just couldn't afford tubes when I was 15........
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Considering that plastic levers weight about 1g each, and take up almost no room, it's easiest to just keep a set in the trunk*, then if you find you need 'em you have 'em. Like maybe when you decide to stop and help that person of the appropriate gender who has a flat.


*The trunk, that's what I call my underseat bag, contains a set of levers, a spoke wrench (the triangular Park, multi-sized one),a set of allen keys, patch kit, spare tube, a small jack knife and a pair of needlenose pliers, sometimes wallet and keys end up there as well. I keep a bike pump on the bike too. I'll add a chain tool one of these days as well.....
Yeah, I stopped using a bag about 6 years ago. I don't like how they wear down my shorts and seatpost. For me it's just pockets, and I only carry a tube, patch kit, and 2-piece multitool. Maybe some gu. All in my pockets -- one each. The form factor of levers is unattractive to me, and I haven't needed one since I stopped carrying them 5 years ago. I rarely used them in the whole 15 years I've been riding.

I help various genders with flats all the time, and I've never needed a lever and not managed to find one. I've gotten good at pulling the tire around the rim so one part has ALL the slack. You can get just about any tire off if you pull it around hard enough. Sometimes new tires are too grippy for this, but if I'm in show-off mode, I can pull it off anyway. The fingers will heal eventually

That idea of using a skewer lever is a keeper!
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Old 07-07-06, 09:59 PM   #14
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Try that with some 700c mavics on new continetal tires.. GOOD F*ing LUCK!
I had some Contis on Open 4/cds back in 1995 or so. They were so loose, that when I got a flat in the rain, I couldn't keep the bead seated. I had to ride home gingerly on about 45psi because there wasn't enough bead friction when wet to keep the thing together. When dry, I could deflate and literally shake the tire off the rim.

Then again, that same year, I had a friend with some Mavic 117 MTB wheels, and conti knobbies, and they were so tight that he had to carry around motorcycle levers. 8" long steel ones! I challenged him one time without levers, and I couldn't even get close.

You never know what you'll end up with. I'd like to buy all these companies a ruler from the same manufacturer if they'd use it.
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Half the time I don't even bother to remove the wheel or tire to fix flats.
I just pull the section of tube out that I need to work on.
What am I missing in your method? Without removing the wheel and tube, how do you know where the problem is?
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