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Old 08-09-06, 12:33 PM   #1
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Quill stem + new anatomic bars?

Yesterday I got my latest project stymied because my LBS couldn't slide a threaded stem over these bars:

Fig 1


Now, I could get a threaded stem with a hinged faceplate, like this one:

Fig 2


But there aren't that many, I can't find one I like in the right size, and I'd much rather use a nice, classy, traditional quill stem, something like this:

Fig 3


or this

Fig 4


(not really traditional, but possibly pretty cool- more likely the first one)

So NOW, I want to replace the bars (and put the Solida bars on my IRO, which has no such stem issues, and for which I think the anatomic road bars I use now are too flexy (they're Modolos).

THE QUESTION IS: Do you think I'd be able to slide a normal(ish) quill stem like those in Figs 3 or 4 onto these bars:

Fig 5


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Is it possible to work out some sort of wedge to hold the quill stem open enough to get it around troublesome bends in these types of anatomic handlebars?
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That Modolo is not hinged, btw. I've got one. (the plastic faceplate serves no purpose on mine, at least)
It's surprising that your LBS cannot get a conventional anatomical bar through those stems. It may require a bit of prying, but they will slip through, gauranteed.

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I've got a pair of anatomic Modolo bars installed on a 3TTT stem like you have pictured. Took some muscle and some playing with it, but I got it on. Heck, a friend of mine put a pair of the same bars on a stem of only 25.4 clamp size (NOT recommended!)

There are hinged faceplate stems out there (I'll believe Fixer that the one pictured isn't if he says he's got one, though it would appear to be??), but it is possible to use a tranditional Cinelli or 3TTT. If you get a Cinelli, be warned that most are 26.4mm clamp size where most bars are 26.0.
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As others have said, there really shouldn't be a problem, as long as the stem and handlebar clamp diameters match.

A lot of the more modern quill stems had circular cut-away areas underneath next to the clamp to accomodate the bends in an anatomic bar. I have a Salsa, a Cinelli A-1, and an ITM that are like that.

If you're still getting stuck at a particularly tight bend, use a flathead screwdriver (or the specific tool that nobody has) to GENTLY pry the clamp apart a millimeter or two. Keep rotating the stem around and around the bar to figure out the angle where it will best pass through. Also, use some grease and do expect to scratch the paint a little on those black handlebars.

Another option is to get a threadless stem with removable faceplate, and a threadless/threaded stem adaptor.

I heard stories about those hinged stems failing... you guessed it, at the hinge. Those may be just stories, but I wouldn't trust it.
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I had a similar issue with an SR quill stem and a Ritchey anatomic bend bar. I had to use a screwdriver to wedge it apart and I still scratched the crap out the bars.

ITM makes a hinged stem. They were on sale at Nashbar recently. Not bad, but not the classic look of that 3ttt.
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Yeah, I've worked hard to keep everything on this bike as classy and Italian as I can, so I don't want to settle for either the ITM stems on Nashbar (which are pretty ugly) or a threadless adapter. I'm going to pop for the 3TTT, and work hard to make it fit. My LBS probably just didn't feel comfortable scratching my new bars up, as I plan to do.

So what's the better bar- the Cinelli Solida or the Deda 310 Anatomic?
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For what it's worth, ITM is Italian. http://www.itm.it/sito_it/main_it.htm
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I didn't know that. Grazie mille!
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Depending upon whether the stem has threading for the clamp bolt, you can simply reverse the bolt and thread it on from the other side. Stick a penny or something in the slot between the halft and drive the bolt aginst this. This will force the sides apart and you should be able to slip your handlebars on thru.
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