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Old 09-13-06, 10:01 PM
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throw tires into drier to help it onto wheel?

I read in bicycing magazine that if a tire is too tight to fit on a wheel, throw it in the drier to soften the rubber. Has anyone tried this?
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Originally Posted by fadetoblack6902
I read in bicycing magazine that if a tire is too tight to fit on a wheel, throw it in the drier to soften the rubber. Has anyone tried this?
DO NOT DO THIS! It sounds like a very bad urban myth. A couple of reasons why this is just a bad idea:
  • Dryers often have a warning labels that says, "Do not wash rubber garments because they may catch on fire".
  • The part of a tire that seems too tight is NOT the rubber (which is just a coating used for protection and traction). The "tight" part of the tire is the bead, an inflexible steel or kevlar hoop that goes around the edge of the tire, and whose circumference must be matched to the size of the wheel (e.g. 700C tires on 700C wheels). The heat of a dryer will not expand a steel bead to any significant extent.
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Yeah. Bad idea. Are you sure it was in Bicycling? Then again, a lot of the stuff they write in there is pretty.. well.. yeah.
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Yeah. Bad idea. Are you sure it was in Bicycling? Then again, a lot of the stuff they write in there is pretty.. well.. yeah.
Yeah... I canceled my subscription. Too much fashion junk and buying guides for 40-something yuppies who want to burn $2000 on a new toy, and tone their thighs while they're at it. Not enough good material for a 24-year-old gearhead.
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Yeah... I canceled my subscription. Too much fashion junk and buying guides for 40-something yuppies who want to burn $2000 on a new toy, and tone their thighs while they're at it. Not enough good material for a 24-year-old gearhead.
I don't believe any mainstream cycling magazine can provide anything for the real gearheads and not the n00bies. And uh yeah don't put tires into driers. If you can't get them on with your hands go get a set of park tool tire levers.
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Originally Posted by operator
I don't believe any mainstream cycling magazine can provide anything for the real gearheads and not the n00bies. And uh yeah don't put tires into driers. If you can't get them on with your hands go get a set of park tool tire levers.
So, are there any "non-mainstream" cycling magazines out there for gearheads?? I'd like something with cover articles like "Framebuilding in your garage on the cheap", "Brooks saddle break-in guide", and "Touring crankset review"

I've somewhat seriously considered starting my own such magazine...
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Wallbike.com sells velovision, which looks a bit more "organic" if you'll excuse the poor use of a poor choice of words.
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Originally Posted by moxfyre
Yeah... I canceled my subscription. Too much fashion junk and buying guides for 40-something yuppies who want to burn $2000 on a new toy, and tone their thighs while they're at it. Not enough good material for a 24-year-old gearhead.

Heeeeeyyyyy.............yah and so???
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Originally Posted by moxfyre
So, are there any "non-mainstream" cycling magazines out there for gearheads?? I'd like something with cover articles like "Framebuilding in your garage on the cheap", "Brooks saddle break-in guide", and "Touring crankset review"
Maybe the Rivendell Reader. Maybe Vintage Bicycle Quarterly.

The state of bicycling mags in the U.S. is pretty fricking sad. Given the number of people who ride, I've got to think there's a market for a decent publication.
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I recall reading a tip somewhere suggesting a 200 degree oven to loosen up tires for easy installation. Never tried it though.

The first time I installed new tires, I have laid out tires on my black truck tonneau cover in direct sun for an hour or so. Can't say whether it helped or not but I had no trouble installing the tires.
Since then, I've not bothered and still have not encountered issues installing tires.

The trick is to go slowly and work the bead over the rim lip a little at the time. Don't try to pull that last 1/4 of the tire onto the rim all at once.
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Originally Posted by spider-man
Given the number of people who ride, I've got to think there's a market for a decent publication.
it's called DirtRag magazine

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Sorry to return this thread to it's original question....

But, FWIW, I have a teammate who has been racing for about 10 years who once told me that he used the dryer method to get a stubborn tire onto his rim. I've known the guy for a while now and don't perceive him to be a bs artist.

(Disclaimer: I did not watch him do this, and I have not tried this method myself).

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Isn't it simpler (and less risky) to get something like this, the Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack: https://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails...Id=39&id=2338? It's a lot easier to take along on rides in your seat bag than a dryer.
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The dryer method might work because the heat would expand the bead, making the opening slightly larger than before. I've used a similar method with too-tight tupperware lids and a microwave oven.
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Originally Posted by lrzipris
Isn't it simpler (and less risky) to get something like this, the Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack: https://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails...Id=39&id=2338? It's a lot easier to take along on rides in your seat bag than a dryer.
+1 I had a similar tire bead jack that I needed for a particularly tight tire/rim combo.
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You're not married, are you?
Nope, not married! Do I have to stop being a gearhead when I get married

My girlfriend promises we'll get a house with a basement big enough to fill with bike stuff... but maybe she's just trying to lure me in!
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Originally Posted by moxfyre
My girlfriend promises we'll get a house with a basement big enough to fill with bike stuff... but maybe she's just trying to lure me in!
ha ha! That is just a ploy to suck you in. Once committed, it'll become filled with scrapbooking, knitting, and eventually, baby equipment. You'll be lucky to find a 3x3 corner to work on your bike(s).
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ha ha! That is just a ploy to suck you in. Once committed, it'll become filled with scrapbooking, knitting, and eventually, baby equipment. You'll be lucky to find a 3x3 corner to work on your bike(s).
Ayayayay! I'm going to have nightmares about this. You've just turned me into another commitment-shy bachelor
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I'd like to hear from someone who has actually tried this. Sounds sketchy to me.
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Ayayayay! I'm going to have nightmares about this. You've just turned me into another commitment-shy bachelor

I've been married for 23 years, and have more bike stuff than I know what to do with. Here's the secret: marry a girl who's afraid of bugs (especially spiders), keep all your bike stuff in the basement, and make damned sure the bug guy doesn't spray in the basement. You'll have your own little sanctuary-
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Originally Posted by well biked
I've been married for 23 years, and have more bike stuff than I know what to do with. Here's the secret: marry a girl who's afraid of bugs (especially spiders), keep all your bike stuff in the basement, and make damned sure the bug guy doesn't spray in the basement. You'll have your own little sanctuary-
SWEET! My girlfriend is deathly afraid of bugs... I don't know which is worse, the fear she gets from seeing a bug, or the fear I get from hearing her shriek like she's being attacked by zombies
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Since when did installing a bike tire get so complicated? Last time i did it, i just pushed it on with my fingers.
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One more reason to never read that rag Magazine
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