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Old 09-22-06, 11:39 PM   #1
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are all spd pedals like this?

I was using some generic spd pedals I think they were xpeda. Well after about 1500 miles the left side was getting sloppy. My feet sometimes roll to the outside my ankles can be a bit weak. Well the pedals started letting my feet roll out. And it was hard to get in easy to get out of. Even mostly new cleats did not fix it.
I got some shimano 535’s that had been used more then I thought off of ebay. Even new cleats let me tip my feet out.
Do real spd’s let you roll your feet out or where these pedals just worn out?
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Old 09-23-06, 03:26 AM   #2
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Yes. I've got some middle-aged Ultegra SPD pedals and I can either rotate my heel outwards (or inwards, though I tend to hit the frame) to release or sort of tip my whole foot over the edge and I'll come out (which is really nice for panic releases).
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My SPD (Sh 540) lets my feet rotate a bit outwards like that, but it's not disturbing at all. Just some freedom of movement. I have no idea what position my feet are in when I ride.

My pedals don't release like Treefox says. I'd be pretty damn pissed if they did, cuz I want my feet on the pedal when I sprint.
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It's possible your shoes are too flexable. Stiffer shoes should reduce the problem.
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...Or possibly add spring tension in addtion.
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stiffer may work they are lake mb shoes.
I tried more tension and it does not fix it. I jsut don't want to buy new spds and find they still do that. tried eggbeaters and they were ok though you don't feel like your locked in and they make my right foot hurt (one size difference compared to the left) though going to their wider platform may fix it.
tried frogs again and they are fine but you walk on the cleats and I forgot what a pain that is. plus they don't let my heel turn in enough or if I let them then I come out too easily. but if it was not for the cleats and walking I would go back to them. I hear the times are far harder to get out of. thats a problem since I am not used to that.
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Yes. I've got some middle-aged Ultegra SPD pedals and I can either rotate my heel outwards (or inwards, though I tend to hit the frame) to release or sort of tip my whole foot over the edge and I'll come out (which is really nice for panic releases).
I agree for the emergancy tip. but it's a pain any other time.
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I hear the times are far harder to get out of. thats a problem since I am not used to that.
Actually, I just went to Time ATACs as my first clipless pedals, and found them very easy to get out of. If you get the more recent "13/17" cleat, you can release with as little as 13 degrees of turnout. And you can fudge that even more by mounting the cleat on your shoe with the front pointing more toward your big toe. Add a little paraffin or chain wax to your pedal and cleats while you're getting used to them, and you won't have a problem. If you get the older cleats (which were 15/20 degree release), you can simply file them a little to make them the same forgiving profile as the newer 13/17s. As for the rolling problem with the SPD's, I don't think you'd feel that on the ATACs. They have very equal tension and seem very stable, regardless of the orientation of your foot. I have a bunch of biomechanical issues, and I love these pedals.
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I would also check to see if both the cleats really are compatible with those pedals and wether you are using single of multi-directional release cleats.
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I would also check to see if both the cleats really are compatible with those pedals and wether you are using single of multi-directional release cleats.
muti's the right ones for the pedals the 56's I think they fit almost all the pedals and the pedals are 535's
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I bougt a set of single sided release cleats the 51's and the problem is solved.
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I hear the times are far harder to get out of. thats a problem since I am not used to that.
I think you're the first person I've seen say that. Everyone I know find Time ATACs to be far superior in operations (even under harsh conditions) to SPD/SPD-clones. I switched from SPD to ATACs on my MTB a while back and that solved all my clipless whoas which mainly were due to extreme condition problems such as mud. However, things like both lateral and angular free float were great to have with the ATACs. I also like the decoupled release angle from tension.
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I think you're the first person I've seen say that. Everyone I know find Time ATACs to be far superior in operations (even under harsh conditions) to SPD/SPD-clones. I switched from SPD to ATACs on my MTB a while back and that solved all my clipless whoas which mainly were due to extreme condition problems such as mud. However, things like both lateral and angular free float were great to have with the ATACs. I also like the decoupled release angle from tension.
I read quite a few report they were harder to get out of.
I ride on the road so mud is not an issue. for road riding the spds are very easy to get into and easy to get out of or harder if you wish. but they have more surface area so they don't make my foot sote. I doubt they would do better in that way then the eggbeaters do. both have the bar design.
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